Re: Madeleine McCann: British police to observe questioning in Portugal - BBC 9/12/14

Helenmeg Tue 09 Dec 2014, 8:04 pm

Very angry man

**candyfloss** Tue 09 Dec 2014, 10:54 pm

Tomorrow's front page........

Madeleine McCann: British police to observe questioning in Portugal - BBC 9/12/14 - Page 2 B4cqo3-CQAEH5ev

**candyfloss** Tue 09 Dec 2014, 10:57 pm

And the Mirror with picture of the pig farmer in top corner.........

Madeleine McCann: British police to observe questioning in Portugal - BBC 9/12/14 - Page 2 B4ctc-wCMAIU0Rk

Madeleine McCann: British police to observe questioning in Portugal - BBC 9/12/14 - Page 2 B4ctc-wCMAIU0Rk

TheTruthWillOut Tue 09 Dec 2014, 11:36 pm

bluebell wrote:I have a question - not breaking news but I don't know where to ask.

Is it just me or does anyone else think it very strange that there are no reports or pictures of TM during all these new developments?

Not that I am in favour of people being door-stepped - RIP Brenda - but is there a "No Fly Zone" or something set up in Rotherham ?
Yes, I do understand this is all going on in Portugal, but it does involve people residing in the UK.

This has often made me wonder, do TM have special powers to keep reporters etc. at a great distance - are they not to be photographed, harrassed in any way? Who decides? I am not in favour of their remaining children being dragged into this of course, but even the T9 are never heard of.

I just thought I would ask.

I just think the requests from SY, on behalf of the Portuguese, have been heeded by the press outside the tabloids that spin simple press releases to sell papers. TV and radio (especially the BBC) have been even better behaved. If charges/convictions do happen, the BBC IMO will have the exclusive through Crimewatch. *off topic* Check this link to see how "tight" Crimewatch/BBC are with UK police: http://criminology.research.southwales.ac.uk/media/files/documents/2013-10-31/Volume_4_Issue_2_Autumn_2008.pdf

I really believe a "result" is around the corner now and the press, if they believe the same, will want this massive story to sell papers. No point ruining things now by stalking the M's/Tapas 7...

dogs don't lie Wed 10 Dec 2014, 9:45 am

Pig farmer was questioned for over six hours as a witness? From the mirror.

Helenmeg Wed 10 Dec 2014, 9:52 am

Interesting article in the Telegraph - only interesting because it appears to continually emphasis that the Portuguese suspected the Mc Canns...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/11078595/Madeleine-McCann-are-we-any-closer-to-knowing-the-truth.html

**candyfloss** Wed 10 Dec 2014, 9:58 am

na Morais ‏@xklamation · 7 mins7 minutes ago
Robert Murat is already at the PJ in Faro to be questioned as a witness at the request of the British police via @Marisa_TVI_JN #mccann

Anne Wed 10 Dec 2014, 10:53 am

candyfloss wrote:na Morais ‏@xklamation · 7 mins7 minutes ago
Robert Murat is already at the PJ in Faro to be questioned as a witness at the request of the British police via @Marisa_TVI_JN #mccann

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Robert Murat enters this doors. The man that was once an arguido in the Portuguese investigation is again in the sights of the English authorities. Even though he was notified in the quality of witness, he will go to Faro accompanied by his lawyer.

Thanks to

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/12/maddie-case-latest-news-videos-from.html

Although he is a witness will his lawyer be able to sit in on the questioning?

bellisa Wed 10 Dec 2014, 11:08 am

Would it not be unusual for a witness to be accompanied by their lawyer? Or is it that he expects to be made arguido again?

I hope if so they are certain he has some involvement after the press he received plus the payout first time around.

Helenmeg Wed 10 Dec 2014, 11:25 am

bellisa wrote:Would it not be unusual for a witness to be accompanied by their lawyer? Or is it that he expects to be made arguido again?

I hope if so they are certain he has some involvement after the press he received plus the payout first time around.

Hear hear, Bellisa. Interesting he took a lawyer, or maybe he'd be stupid if he didn't....
If I was a witness and completely innocent then I dont think I'd bother.

Perhaps he isn't just a witness and isn't completely innocent... perhaps

Guest Wed 10 Dec 2014, 11:28 am

After all he's been through already, I'm surprised his lawyer isn't superglued to him.

costello Wed 10 Dec 2014, 11:36 am

According to N.M.@adiren M. (Algarve) twitter. Robert Murat holds the Arguido status until the end of the case. This is maybe the reason for his lawyer accompanying him to the interviews.

Poppy Wed 10 Dec 2014, 11:43 am

Joana Morais ‏@xklamation 20 mins20 minutes ago
Murat's questioning was suspended until legal issue is solved, his wife, Michaela Walczuch is being questioned. via @Marisa_TVI_JN #mccann

Poppy Wed 10 Dec 2014, 11:46 am

Joana Morais ‏@xklamation 21 mins21 minutes ago
Legal issue concerns the fact that Murat had already been questioned as an arguido on exact same issues by PJ via @Marisa_TVI_JN #mccann
0 replies . 3 retweets 3 favourites

**candyfloss** Wed 10 Dec 2014, 11:46 am

Joana Morais @xklamation
· 22 mins 22 minutes ago
Legal issue concerns the fact that Murat had already been questioned as an arguido on exact same issues by PJ via @Marisa_TVI_JN #mccann

**candyfloss** Wed 10 Dec 2014, 11:48 am

Joana Morais @xklamation
· 27 mins 27 minutes ago
Francisco Pagarete, Murat's lawyer, raised a legal issue, Murat might not be able to be questioned again. via @Marisa_TVI_JN #mccann

bellisa Wed 10 Dec 2014, 11:48 am

So costello the same will apply to all previous arguidos if true - interesting.

Also seen on fb there that his lawyer said that as he was already questioned previously he cannot be questioned again. Very strange, its not like he was on trial before.

sure if that's the case a lot of crimes would never be solved.

bluebell Wed 10 Dec 2014, 11:56 am

Helenmeg wrote:Interesting article in the Telegraph - only interesting because it appears to continually emphasis that the Portuguese suspected the Mc Canns...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/11078595/Madeleine-McCann-are-we-any-closer-to-knowing-the-truth.html

This is also clearly mentions - The Dogs - so 'someone' is not going to be very happy.

costello Wed 10 Dec 2014, 12:01 pm

@Bellisa

I don't understand to be honest, I thought Robert Murat's Arguido status had been lifted in 2007.

margaret Wed 10 Dec 2014, 12:01 pm

bellisa wrote:So costello the same will apply to all previous arguidos if true - interesting.

Also seen on fb there that his lawyer said that as he was already questioned previously he cannot be questioned again. Very strange, its not like he was on trial before.

sure if that's the case a lot of crimes would never be solved.

Very odd. What's he got to hide? Make me an arguido if you want I'd answer every damn question until the end of my days - providing I was innocent.... scratch

margaret Wed 10 Dec 2014, 12:02 pm

costello wrote:@Bellisa

I don't understand to be honest, I thought Robert Murat's Arguido status had been lifted in 2007.

But wasn't it said at the time of shelving this case that should the case ever be reopened the arguido statuses would be reinstated. So maybe RM, Kate and Gerry are already arguidos but it's not been publicised?

Guest Wed 10 Dec 2014, 12:09 pm

margaret wrote:
costello wrote:@Bellisa

I don't understand to be honest, I thought Robert Murat's Arguido status had been lifted in 2007.

But wasn't it said at the time of shelving this case that should the case ever be reopened the arguido statuses would be reinstated. So maybe RM, Kate and Gerry are already arguidos but it's not been publicised?

That was my understanding too, something about a 20 year period in which the Arguido status could be reinstated at any time. If RM has been re-arguidoed, it stands to reason that so have Kate and Gerry McCann. The UK MSM wouldn't report it, though.

costello Wed 10 Dec 2014, 12:10 pm

Thanks for that Margaret,I also remember reading the same with regards to the case ever being reopened.

bellisa Wed 10 Dec 2014, 12:26 pm

Yes I think as the investigation was shelved the arguido status was inevitably lifted but it would appear that because its reopened all former arguidos are still arguidos.

So much for Murat saying he would be happy to help police with their enquiries. .seems his lawyer is looking for loopholes.

dogs don't lie Wed 10 Dec 2014, 12:38 pm

I wonder does he know something from hearsay?

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