The Mystery of Corrie McKeague
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Re: The Mystery of Corrie McKeague
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2017-03-17/corrie-mckeague-missing-airmans-dad-visits-landfill-site-as-search-continues/
What a thoroughly decent chap Martin is.
What a thoroughly decent chap Martin is.
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He certainly gives that impression while Corrie's mother comes over as rather unlikable.
I wonder how much truth there is in the report that his other two sons have cut off contact with him.
I wonder how much truth there is in the report that his other two sons have cut off contact with him.
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http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/search-corrie-mckeague-grinds-sudden-12758704
Grinds to a sudden halt because they found him I thought it was going to say.
Excavator broke down so resuming Monday.
Grinds to a sudden halt because they found him I thought it was going to say.
Excavator broke down so resuming Monday.
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I'm now wondering about the excavator breaking down story, Andrew. It seems to have been all kicking off on the Find Corrie FB page today. Not a member so can't read myself but facts keep changing.
I'm a bit lost trying to work things out but a lot more to come I think. I'm now questioning whether he is at the landfill.
I also keep going back to this article: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/i-feel-like-ive-lost-9848139
I don't understand how Martins other two sons could disown him over Corrie going missing? Just what was Corrie saying to family in the days/weeks leading up to his disappearance and what could his dad have done to lead to a situation his other sons abandon him?
I'm a bit lost trying to work things out but a lot more to come I think. I'm now questioning whether he is at the landfill.
I also keep going back to this article: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/i-feel-like-ive-lost-9848139
I don't understand how Martins other two sons could disown him over Corrie going missing? Just what was Corrie saying to family in the days/weeks leading up to his disappearance and what could his dad have done to lead to a situation his other sons abandon him?
TheTruthWillOut- Posts : 1590
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Alright, TTWO. That's intriguing then about the Facebook stuff... What are the facts that keep changing?7
In regards to the falling out then I just thought that was probably down to the way they wanted to handle it and proceed with it in the early stages which led to the 'heated rows'. And maybe the brothers keeping certain things from him about Corrie's personal life which he later found out via the press.... Swinging etc. There's clearly no love lost between father and mother and the boys probably just sided with the mother (or told to do so).
My basic take on it anyway.
In regards to the falling out then I just thought that was probably down to the way they wanted to handle it and proceed with it in the early stages which led to the 'heated rows'. And maybe the brothers keeping certain things from him about Corrie's personal life which he later found out via the press.... Swinging etc. There's clearly no love lost between father and mother and the boys probably just sided with the mother (or told to do so).
My basic take on it anyway.
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@Andrew
From what is being relayed by those that are members of Find Corrie FB it seems one of the things that has changed is the bin contents. It had always been recycling and now it is either DMR (dry mixed recyclables) or general waste. It has also been pointed out by some that Suffolk Police have only ever stated waste was collected, not what type. Plus it also might be the case the weight discrepancy has nothing to do with the contents of the bin but a difference found at the weighbridge (at the landfill I assume) between the total weight of lorry+load and the weight of all bins collected.
Anyway, here is what uncle Tony has had to say this evening:
And this: (mention of American Military is especially interesting...or desperate)
From what is being relayed by those that are members of Find Corrie FB it seems one of the things that has changed is the bin contents. It had always been recycling and now it is either DMR (dry mixed recyclables) or general waste. It has also been pointed out by some that Suffolk Police have only ever stated waste was collected, not what type. Plus it also might be the case the weight discrepancy has nothing to do with the contents of the bin but a difference found at the weighbridge (at the landfill I assume) between the total weight of lorry+load and the weight of all bins collected.
Anyway, here is what uncle Tony has had to say this evening:
does not mean he was not, but he was not seen on CCTV in the cab, or in/on the rear of the vehicle as it passed the cameras. No forensic trace was detected either, assuming we can trust that the correct vehicle was ever actually inspected. The forensic search of the bins didn't happen until months later (may not have been the same bins - I went through there a number of times and saw different bins almost every time).
However, we have since learned that the timings and direction of travel of the vehicle In the area of the Horseshoe are not what we were first told - it is also difficult to understand how it is possible the apparent difference in sequence/direction etc. could have been mistaken.
It is frustrating as a considerable amount of the bin Lorry and waste site investigation is as a result of information or direction from our team to Suffolk Constabulary. From the calibration checks on the weighing arm, the vehicle tachometer analysis, the mobile phone faraday experiment and even identifying and providing the name and other information regarding key individuals who were subsequently arrested or interviewed (not consistent with what their Media officer is saying, but the integrity of all of the media reporting can be examined at a later date - finding Corrie is more important).
At the outset WE made the observation that there could only be 3 possibilities:
Corrie was still in the horseshoe area
He left on foot
He left in a vehicle
Within the first few hours/days the local Police team were telling us he was not there and was not seen on CCTV leaving on foot. This left the vehciles. The most obvious deduction on the circumstantial evidence (the bin area, the bin Lorry, the phone ping - nobody had come forward to say they had seen Corrie etc.), we assumed he may have gone out in the bin Lorry - we also knew about the 4 vehicles at that time, 2 were almost immediately ruled out, 1 still never has been (seems we don't want to upset the local American military relationship) and the bin van.
We begged the Police to search the tip. They said no... and never. Nicola pleaded with them to at least secure the area. Again, no, they wanted to hand it back to the operator and that they did not feel there was any future value in holding the site. Through luck or judgement the waste site operator did not dump much/any more waste on that area of the tip - this was nothing to do with the Police.
We spoke to the Police and the Military liaison about using military resources to conduct the search. The Royal Engineers are experts at this sort of thing, as they are used to carefully clearing explosive sites in urban and rural locations. They have the people, equipment for conducting delicate searches in unsafe environments... They also have more than one excavator. The area being searched is nearer to the size of a football pitch than a tennis court - you could grid it into a search area where twice as many people could be searching.
Every minute they take to do this, there is a Mother staring at her phone hoping for it to ring and praying that it won't.
This should have happened 5 months ago - permitting a full stop on the search activity because an excavator isn't working seems perverse when there are so many instant options available to replace it. If this was the Chief Inspector's son, do we think the search would have stopped for this?
And this: (mention of American Military is especially interesting...or desperate)
This left the vehciles. The most obvious deduction on the circumstantial evidence (the bin area, the bin Lorry, the phone ping - nobody had come forward to say they had seen Corrie etc.), we assumed he may have gone out in the bin Lorry - we also knew about the 4 vehicles at that time, 2 were almost immediately ruled out, 1 still never has been (seems we don't want to upset the local American military relationship) and the bin van.
TheTruthWillOut- Posts : 1590
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Cheers for posting that up.
The American Military bit jumped out at me as well but I just can't convince myself that everything that Uncle T says is the truth and nothing but the truth...
The American Military bit jumped out at me as well but I just can't convince myself that everything that Uncle T says is the truth and nothing but the truth...
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Andrew wrote:Cheers for posting that up.
The American Military bit jumped out at me as well but I just can't convince myself that everything that Uncle T says is the truth and nothing but the truth...
You aren't alone there, Andrew. If he isn't being completely truthful for whatever reasons, it will come back to bite him on the arse at the very least (or even get himself arrested!).
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Reading through this is does strike me just how much and how easy confusion has been sown.
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Thanks for posting Uncle Tony's latest TTWO. It reads to me as if he is claiming MIS have provided all the information and leads for the police, but I doubt the accuracy of that. Also since the landfill search was announced many quotes in the news from one side of the family
that they have been pressing the police for this to happen for months. I do not mean this in any critical way, but I do remember them asking for landfill search to try and find the phone not in the anticipation that Corrie would be found there. I don't think I read any suggestion that C had ended up in landfill until the news of incorrect bin weights emerged recently.
I hope he is found, though I still have doubts he is at the landfill, but interesting you say that now talk on f/b is of dry mixed waste not cardboard waste bins.
Would C have climbed into a dry mixed waste bin if there was also a cleaner cardboard bin available ? I really don't know what to think happened, nothing is at all clear is it.
that they have been pressing the police for this to happen for months. I do not mean this in any critical way, but I do remember them asking for landfill search to try and find the phone not in the anticipation that Corrie would be found there. I don't think I read any suggestion that C had ended up in landfill until the news of incorrect bin weights emerged recently.
I hope he is found, though I still have doubts he is at the landfill, but interesting you say that now talk on f/b is of dry mixed waste not cardboard waste bins.
Would C have climbed into a dry mixed waste bin if there was also a cleaner cardboard bin available ? I really don't know what to think happened, nothing is at all clear is it.
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@ bluebell
- "Would C have climbed into a dry mixed waste bin if there was also a cleaner cardboard bin available ? "
This is what I can`t get my head around - surely he wouldn`t have climbed into a smelly mixed waste bin. I posted some videos a few pages back about where homeless people sleep and it`s always cardboard recycling and we were told it was a bin Greigs used for their cardboard.
This is the website about Suffolk household and recycling centres - it seems it is taken to Great Blakenham :-
http://www.greensuffolk.org/recycling/
- "Would C have climbed into a dry mixed waste bin if there was also a cleaner cardboard bin available ? "
This is what I can`t get my head around - surely he wouldn`t have climbed into a smelly mixed waste bin. I posted some videos a few pages back about where homeless people sleep and it`s always cardboard recycling and we were told it was a bin Greigs used for their cardboard.
This is the website about Suffolk household and recycling centres - it seems it is taken to Great Blakenham :-
http://www.greensuffolk.org/recycling/
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@ Mimi. I watched vids of homeless asleep in bins and being tipped into waste trucks. Dreadful that people have to do such things isn't it.
But seems that homeless use clean bins for shelter and safety during the night, yet we are being led to believe C would climb into a waste bin for a short nap ! Dawn would have been just after 6 a.m. that morning and the weather was dry with a reasonable temperature, there were quite a few people about as we've seen on the CCTV - so why get in a bin at 3.30 a.m. and how did he manage to be so deeply asleep that so soon after he wasn't woken by lorry noise and movement of the bin when it was collected ? Hope there are answers eventually.
But seems that homeless use clean bins for shelter and safety during the night, yet we are being led to believe C would climb into a waste bin for a short nap ! Dawn would have been just after 6 a.m. that morning and the weather was dry with a reasonable temperature, there were quite a few people about as we've seen on the CCTV - so why get in a bin at 3.30 a.m. and how did he manage to be so deeply asleep that so soon after he wasn't woken by lorry noise and movement of the bin when it was collected ? Hope there are answers eventually.
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Is it just me or does anyone else find this concert for Corrie slightly disturbing?
As some have already been hearing on heart radio This Morning.
As I've said from the start I will always try to find ways of raising funds for SULSAR and the charities that's have helped to support us to find Corrie. But I also want to find a way of showing the amazing community spirit , the kindness and love that has been shown to myself, Makeyan, Darroch and our famlies.
So plans are underway to have CORRIES CONCERT this summer.
This will be a charity event and we hope to include as many local traders and members of the community that feel they could bring something positive to a full day event that celebrates everything beautiful about this area.
This will take a huge amount of planing but we have a proffesional at our helm by the name of Ollie, so now we bring it together.
If anyone has skills or suggestions that may help.
Please send an e mail to
findcorrieconcert@outlook.com
xxxxx
As some have already been hearing on heart radio This Morning.
As I've said from the start I will always try to find ways of raising funds for SULSAR and the charities that's have helped to support us to find Corrie. But I also want to find a way of showing the amazing community spirit , the kindness and love that has been shown to myself, Makeyan, Darroch and our famlies.
So plans are underway to have CORRIES CONCERT this summer.
This will be a charity event and we hope to include as many local traders and members of the community that feel they could bring something positive to a full day event that celebrates everything beautiful about this area.
This will take a huge amount of planing but we have a proffesional at our helm by the name of Ollie, so now we bring it together.
If anyone has skills or suggestions that may help.
Please send an e mail to
findcorrieconcert@outlook.com
xxxxx
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chirpyinsect wrote:Is it just me or does anyone else find this concert for Corrie slightly disturbing?
As some have already been hearing on heart radio This Morning.
As I've said from the start I will always try to find ways of raising funds for SULSAR and the charities that's have helped to support us to find Corrie. But I also want to find a way of showing the amazing community spirit , the kindness and love that has been shown to myself, Makeyan, Darroch and our famlies.
So plans are underway to have CORRIES CONCERT this summer.
This will be a charity event and we hope to include as many local traders and members of the community that feel they could bring something positive to a full day event that celebrates everything beautiful about this area.
This will take a huge amount of planing but we have a If anyone has skills or suggestions that may help.proffesional at our helm by the name of Ollie, so now we bring it together.
Please send an e mail to
findcorrieconcert@outlook.com
xxxxx
Strange I think. Better to wait till he is found? Also, who is 'Ollie', any ideas ?
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Absolutely no idea who this Ollie is, Bluebell.
Another article about it from ITV:
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2017-03-20/plans-announced-for-corries-concert/
Personally, I feel it's totally wrong planning ahead a "Corrie's Concert". Nobody knows exactly what's happened to the poor lad as yet.... What if it turns out to be a horrific murder and parts of him are scattered everywhere at the landfill site.... Would a concert be really appropriate.....
Another article about it from ITV:
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2017-03-20/plans-announced-for-corries-concert/
Personally, I feel it's totally wrong planning ahead a "Corrie's Concert". Nobody knows exactly what's happened to the poor lad as yet.... What if it turns out to be a horrific murder and parts of him are scattered everywhere at the landfill site.... Would a concert be really appropriate.....
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chirpyinsect wrote:Is it just me or does anyone else find this concert for Corrie slightly disturbing?
As some have already been hearing on heart radio This Morning.
As I've said from the start I will always try to find ways of raising funds for SULSAR and the charities that's have helped to support us to find Corrie. But I also want to find a way of showing the amazing community spirit , the kindness and love that has been shown to myself, Makeyan, Darroch and our famlies.
So plans are underway to have CORRIES CONCERT this summer.
This will be a charity event and we hope to include as many local traders and members of the community that feel they could bring something positive to a full day event that celebrates everything beautiful about this area.
This will take a huge amount of planing but we have a proffesional at our helm by the name of Ollie, so now we bring it together.
If anyone has skills or suggestions that may help.
Please send an e mail to
findcorrieconcert@outlook.com
xxxxx
OMG Reminds me of another missing child where the parents were planning a concert and supposedly getting Elton John to do a turn
............... and who were doing their own investigations and interfering with police work.
............... and who were in the papers every day.
So undignified
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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/754247/nicola-mckeague-corrie-mckeague-missing-wrong-bin/
CORRIE SEARCH BLUNDERS Mum of missing RAF man Corrie McKeague has blasted cops – as it emerges he may have been in rubbish bin rather than recycling bin
CORRIE SEARCH BLUNDERS Mum of missing RAF man Corrie McKeague has blasted cops – as it emerges he may have been in rubbish bin rather than recycling bin
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4335834/Corrie-McKeague-s-mother-claims-misled-police.html
Mother of missing RAF airman Corrie McKeague claims she was misled by police investigating her son's disappearance on FIVE separate occasions in scathing Facebook post
Nicola Urquhart has voiced her concerns about errors in handling of case
Serving police officer says search for son should have started much earlier
Mr McKeague's body is thought to have been dumped in a tip by a bin lorry
Police issue lengthy explanation and 'remain committed to finding out truth'
Mother of missing RAF airman Corrie McKeague claims she was misled by police investigating her son's disappearance on FIVE separate occasions in scathing Facebook post
Nicola Urquhart has voiced her concerns about errors in handling of case
Serving police officer says search for son should have started much earlier
Mr McKeague's body is thought to have been dumped in a tip by a bin lorry
Police issue lengthy explanation and 'remain committed to finding out truth'
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