The "number 1 suspect" Christian B

Freedom wrote:A mention of Josef Fritzl to add to the mix.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8571451/Madeleine-McCann-investigators-resume-digging-German-allotment.html?ito=push-notification&ci=25444&si=10306854

The plot thickens, as if it's not complicated enough already.

But, just to keep it simple, the most likely explanation, imo, for the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is the one given by her parents and their friends - it is connected with paedophile rings. It seems likely given his past and the hidden stashes of child pornography found buried near a property he lived in, that Brueckner would be in a paedophile ring. How did he gain access to all this online child pornography found buried by police? As has been pointed out in one of the interviews upthread with a german commentator the quantities found suggest an obsession.

We have seen many red flags from the McCanns and their friends that the disappearance of Madeleine has links with child pornography. The Gaspar statements were taken seriously by Detective Amaral. Kate writes some very strange things in her book. There is the very peculiar, imo, TM account of the Nigel Foster conversation and the video-recording of Nigel's daughter near the mini tennis courts on Thursday morning.

Some have suggested that early during that fateful week - Monday perhaps which Kate writes nothing about in her book - there could have been some kind of photo-shoot over at Bergau (the 'what's so special about Bergau' thread over the way).

In relation to hidden dungeons, bunkers and the like - this obviously relates to the Josef Fritzl case and indeed other child abduction cases where there is a necessity for secrecy.

There was a fascinating discussion around a comment on Cristabel's blog a few years back which appeared to come from a disgruntled relative and which centered around a large garage extension which was built onto the McCanns property. The disgruntled relative appeared to suggest, if I remember rightly, there could have been nefarious reasons for this garage extension. A very strange 'Madeleine was Here' episode (Channel 4?) showed the garage extension with a relative coming out while Gerry and Kate played with the twins in their garden. It was a peculiar piece of filming and Gerry's interactions around Amelie appeared very peculiar and stilted, imo. It made me wonder why the film was made in the first place. What was it's objective?

In short, we know child sex trafficking exists world-wide. The parents and friends have suggested Madeleine could have been stolen to order by a paedophile ring. Who was in the ring - Brueckner? Who else?

Ex CEOP chief executive Jim Gamble has always insisted that the parents are innocent, without any evidence for that, imo.



https://patch.com/arizona/tucson/underground-tucson-bunker-possibly-used-child-sex-trafficking

More efforts to convey the idea that the "paedo done it".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576985/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-kidnap-campervan-weeks-vanished.html?ito=push-notification&ci=25796&si=10306854

We've been treated to 13 years of total nonsense, I don't see any reason to think that we're not being treated to more of the same.

wlbtsreborn wrote:We've been treated to 13 years of total nonsense, I don't see any reason to think that we're not being treated to more of the same.

Why would the German police bother, though? I would like to think that they care about their reputation. We know what Portuguese police thought.

I agree that the narrative from the UK police has been nonsense which is why they are still peddling the 'missing' line. There is every indication, imo, that both the parents and their friends knew Madeleine was dead by Thursday evening. Police in the UK must know what happened and the media as well.

However there are now two other forces who are stating Madeleine is dead and one police force stating she was murdered. This does not tow the UK police line and even if Brueckner is involved in some way that does not rule out the parents as having some involvement as well. Brueckner may well have had a role to play and/or he is a convenient patsy. It could well be he was lured into the web, which may not have been particularly difficult judging by his past.

I think there are clear indications that other people have been drawn into this saga, whether unwittingly or not. For instance nanny Amy Tierney, Robert Murat, the dodgy priest whose name escapes me to name but a few. I see no reason why Brueckner would not be another character in the cast and his background makes him a handy person to have hanging around if you are going to claim your child was abducted by a paedophile.

I see no reason for the German police to lie.

Police forces do the bidding of their political masters. I've been speculating for 10 years on this case, sick of it now. Just friggin' arrest someone and take them to trial or be done with it. I don't expect any justice for poor little Madeleine McCann.

Guinea Pig wrote:More efforts to convey the idea that the "paedo done it".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576985/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-kidnap-campervan-weeks-vanished.html?ito=push-notification&ci=25796&si=10306854

Looking at the comments it's quite true that he could never get a fair trail now. So why are the German police doing this? There must be a reason. I believe there is something or several things that link the suspect with TM.

Otherwise, why prejudice a fair trial? It doesn't make sense. I think the German police are digging dirt up deliberately.

I wonder who Brueckner was on the phone to on Thursday evening when he was near Ocean Club?

wlbtsreborn wrote:Police forces do the bidding of their political masters.  I've been speculating for 10 years on this case, sick of it now.  Just friggin' arrest someone and take them to trial or be done with it.  I don't expect any justice for poor little Madeleine McCann.

Agreed but at least it's a distraction from the coronavirus news. Masks are being made compulsory in other settings such as galleries, museums and places of worship. Places of worship, ffs. When will this madness end?

But it's fine to sit all day in a pub or at McDonalds.

It's so clear that this government don't give a stuff about the arts of culture or indeed education, imo. We have been dumbed down with a moronic media, puppet politicians, dodgy scientists and a few psychopathic billionaires. Not to mention sleaze and corruption all around. And we are now having the most basic freedoms taken away and being forced to wear bibs over our mouths and noses like over-grown babies. We might as well be forced to have dummies so we can't speak. What next - enforced nappies?

ETA: And of course we will be lined up for the new miraculous vaccine that Bill Gates is positively evangelical about and desperate for the whole world to have. Just what is in this vaccine, I wonder? One thing is for sure, it will all be a money-spinner for big pharma and the 1% and why exactly would they even want a healthy, intelligent population? Not enough money in it and also far more difficult to control. Disease represents a big market and Gates knows all about markets for products.

It's pathetic.

I agree with Poster. I can't understand why the police have caused the situation where the man can't have a fair trial due to the constant publicity which more or less states he did it. How could a juror without the background knowledge that we on this forum have, believe anything other than he is guilty from what he/she has read.

The police want to end the case. They have someone who is clearly evil who should be locked up anyway. They can't arrest him as there is no body and no evidence. So they create the situation where a fair trial is impossible. Maybe they will arrest him but any half competent lawyer could get him off on the fair trial basis. The police blame the media for the trial falling through Case closed. He did it; that's obvious.

I said at the start that the Germans are just looking for a reason to keep him in jail, but using Madeleine as that reason is one hell of a no no for me and most of us. With what we know (and a lot of others), they've no chance. Only the complete truth, with every puzzle in place, will do now. They got no other option.

Antonia wrote:I agree with Poster.  I can't understand why the police have caused the situation where the man can't have a fair trial due to the constant publicity which more or less states he did it. How could a juror without the background knowledge that we on this forum have, believe anything other than he is guilty from what he/she has read.

The police want to end the case. They have someone who is clearly evil who should be locked up anyway.  They can't arrest him as there is no body and no evidence. So they create the situation where a fair trial is impossible. Maybe they will arrest him but any half competent lawyer could get him off on the fair trial basis. The police blame the media for the trial falling through Case closed. He did it; that's obvious.

This suggests a degree of collusion between Operation Grange and the German judiciary. Would they be willing to do that in a case that frankly has nothing to do with them? They potentially end up looking stupid, if not incompetent, with no end benefit for themselves.

froggy wrote:

This suggests a degree of collusion between Operation Grange and the German judiciary. Would they be willing to do that in a case that frankly has nothing to do with them? They potentially end up looking stupid, if not incompetent, with no end benefit for themselves.

Anybody who has lived through the past few months knows that Governments, the media and the judiciary don't give a toss about looking stupid.

The stitch up continues - how many more old acquaintances will be dredged up with anecdotes about him?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8584987/Christian-Brueckner-boasted-performing-sex-act-naked-sleeping-British-girls.html?ito=push-notification&ci=26111&si=10306854

Freedom wrote:The stitch up continues - how many more old acquaintances will be dredged up with anecdotes about him?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8584987/Christian-Brueckner-boasted-performing-sex-act-naked-sleeping-British-girls.html?ito=push-notification&ci=26111&si=10306854

Brueckner, 43, already has a string of convictions including the sexual assault of a six-year-old girl and the rape of a woman in her 70s in 2005.

He is currently in German custody on suspicion of of kidnapping three-year-old Madeleine from a holiday flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007.

Brueckner's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age that Brueckner would not assist investigators but denied that meant he had anything to hide.

He added: 'It is very normal not to talk to the police when you are suspected of committing a crime'.

He also claimed the major new search, ahead of a crucial court decision that could free Bruecker, was an attempt to sway public opinion.  



Uh? I thought he was in prison because of drug offences and will shortly be starting a sentence for rape but his lawyers have appealed on a technicality?

This is interesting, though, a quote from Brueckner's lawyer: He also claimed the major new search, ahead of a crucial court decision that could free Bruecker, was an attempt to sway public opinion.  

unreorganised wrote:

Freedom wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8489435/Detective-lived-door-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-working-police-her.html?ito=push-notification&ci=21352&si=10306854

It mentions Sandra Felgueiras who has had a brain transplant and now believes the McCanns.

I'm not sure about believes the McCanns; I thought she had a downer on Amaral? I've got to admit I wasn't very impressed with the stunt with the van pictures, and I'd be very surprised if Brueckner's hair was able to grow by the amount claimed between his imprisonment for the fuel thefts and the following May.

Apols for quoting myself but it is apparent from the recently unearthed video of Brueckner that he did not have dreadlocks in May 2007 as claimed by Amaral. I can totally understand why Sandra has had a change of heart.

She presumably was aware though of all the problems with the McCanns' story. One piece of misinformation or error from the police doesn't mean that the McCanns are in the clear.

Freedom wrote:She presumably was aware though of all the problems with the McCanns' story. One piece of misinformation or error from the police doesn't mean that the McCanns are in the clear.

Indeed. But there's been some serious arse covering by Amaral since Brueckner entered the frame and it's backfired on him. Even I correctly called it out from this distance, FFS.

I finally got around to watching the ITV thing. I wasn't expecting much and consequently wasn't disappointed. Have to laugh at the false equivalency from Graham Hill - "If this happens again and a child disappears from a beach..." Er, say what? At least now I have a reminder of why I barely watch the telly.

unreorganised wrote:

unreorganised wrote:

Freedom wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8489435/Detective-lived-door-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-working-police-her.html?ito=push-notification&ci=21352&si=10306854

It mentions Sandra Felgueiras who has had a brain transplant and now believes the McCanns.

I'm not sure about believes the McCanns; I thought she had a downer on Amaral? I've got to admit I wasn't very impressed with the stunt with the van pictures, and I'd be very surprised if Brueckner's hair was able to grow by the amount claimed between his imprisonment for the fuel thefts and the following May.

Apols for quoting myself but it is apparent from the recently unearthed video of Brueckner that he did not have dreadlocks in May 2007 as claimed by Amaral. I can totally understand why Sandra has had a change of heart.

I believe Amaral was pointing out that it could not have been Brueckner reported to be the one with long hair or dreadlocks seen around the ocean club because he had short hair.

http://www.world-today-news.com/portugal-is-in-a-position-to-solve-the-maddie-case-goncalo-amaral-defends-pj-and-mp-portugal-3/

Amaral says in this article that Brueckner had short hair.

unreorganised wrote:

unreorganised wrote:

Freedom wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8489435/Detective-lived-door-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-working-police-her.html?ito=push-notification&ci=21352&si=10306854

It mentions Sandra Felgueiras who has had a brain transplant and now believes the McCanns.

I'm not sure about believes the McCanns; I thought she had a downer on Amaral? I've got to admit I wasn't very impressed with the stunt with the van pictures, and I'd be very surprised if Brueckner's hair was able to grow by the amount claimed between his imprisonment for the fuel thefts and the following May.

Apols for quoting myself but it is apparent from the recently unearthed video of Brueckner that he did not have dreadlocks in May 2007 as claimed by Amaral. I can totally understand why Sandra has had a change of heart.

Snipped from the thread above:

The villa Oliver and Karin Stenard shared with the man German prosecutors believe abducted and murdered Madeleine McCann was isolated Villa Bianca, the same property he spent time at in 2007 with fellow German Nicole Fehlinger when it was used as a refuge for troubled children.

The couple revealed Brueckner had admitted to being Nicole's boyfriend before she left Portugal to return to Germany in 2009.

The above is interesting, imo. The suspect was in a relationship with a woman who ran a refuge for troubled children in 2007.  

The refuge was in an isolated villa - Villa Bianca - in Foral, 30 miles from Luz.  Nine years later, the suspect lived and worked for several months for a couple who lived at the same villa. This arrangement ended when the suspect assaulted Oliver Stenard, his boss.

The couple had met the suspect through fellow German Bernhard Piro, described by the couple as a 'good friend' of Brueckner, the owner of a breaker's yard where police seized a VW camper van Brueckner had used.

Austrian-born Oliver told RTP programme Sexta as 9 he had to call police after 'alcoholic' Brueckner broke his nose in a September 22 2016 assault - but revealed he was allowed to walk away without charge after cops failed to spot a European arrest warrant was already out for his arrest for the German sex crime.

He added in a bombshell revelation about the British detective: 'The next door neighbour is an English policeman from Scotland Yard.    


You couldn't make all this up could you? Or could you? I wonder how many troubled children lived in the refuge at the time that Brueckner was in a relationship with the woman who ran it? And at the time that Madeleine McCann disappeared? The woman appears to have gone back to Germany in 2009.

I wonder who the Scotland Yard detective is who owns a house next door to this property? He is now, according to this story,  working with Portuguese police to 'find the missing three-year-old'.

The plot thickens.

Could this case get more confusing?

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/07/17/revealed-child-therapist-tracked-down-by-olive-press-was-maddie-mccann-suspects-partner-in-crime-in-portugal-as-mo

So a charlatan with no qualifications was running a centre for children with problems while her boyfriend was a paedo rapist.

Not a lot really you can say about that.

Nothing in that story demonstrates that she wasn't a qualified therapist, only the claim of a teacher.

Thanks for pointing that out, froggy. I'd only skim read it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8599435/Germany-sought-Italys-okay-extradite-McCann-suspect-EU-court-adviser-says.html?ito=push-notification&ci=26789&si=10306854

For "It means that the child abuser, who has been convicted several times, is unlikely to be released on 7 January 2021, buying Madeleine McCann detectives valuable time to build the case against him" read "to gather enough nonsense to stitch him up".