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Post  Freedom Tue 16 Jun 2020, 11:56 am

Can anyone else try please? I have a problem with links from all newspapers - adverts, not loading properly - but I didn't think there was anything I could do about it.
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Post  dogs don't lie Tue 16 Jun 2020, 12:09 pm

I can only do links confused

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Post  dogs don't lie Tue 16 Jun 2020, 12:10 pm

Madeleine McCann's parents deny German police have sent letter saying she's dead

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-madeleine-mccanns-parents-say-22199918#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare

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Post  unreorganised Tue 16 Jun 2020, 12:13 pm

dogs don't lie wrote:Madeleine McCann's parents deny German police have sent letter saying she's dead

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-madeleine-mccanns-parents-say-22199918#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare

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Post  dogs don't lie Tue 16 Jun 2020, 12:22 pm

Could be still on its way then Razz

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Post  candyfloss Tue 16 Jun 2020, 12:30 pm

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Post  unreorganised Tue 16 Jun 2020, 12:47 pm

Well this is a whole new level of farce even by the standards of this case. Is Mr. Andersen going to double down?

Maybe he sent the letter to the address on Gerry McCann's driving license.
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Post  Freedom Tue 16 Jun 2020, 12:51 pm

I was wondering where he sent it - maybe even the apartment in PDL?
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Post  unreorganised Tue 16 Jun 2020, 1:36 pm

Freedom wrote:I was wondering where he sent it - maybe even the apartment in PDL?

FAO Gerry McCann, C/O Ruth McCann. I can see how somebody could make that mistake.
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Post  Freedom Tue 16 Jun 2020, 2:20 pm

No chance then of it being delivered as Ruth McCann sold the place some years ago.

https://metro.co.uk/2017/02/24/british-woman-secretly-buys-apartment-where-madeleine-mccann-vanished-6469491/
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Post  Heisenburg Tue 16 Jun 2020, 5:38 pm

unreorganised wrote:Well this is a whole new level of farce even by the standards of this case. Is Mr. Andersen going to double down?

Maybe he sent the letter to the address on Gerry McCann's driving license.

If he'd have put money in it,it would soon find its way.
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Post  Bampots Tue 16 Jun 2020, 9:15 pm

surely the important bit of G and K statement is that they dont have a family spokesman...who might that not be then?

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Post  TheTruthWillOut Tue 16 Jun 2020, 9:20 pm

Question about the mobile call between CB and the mystery caller. Were both people/phones in PDL or was the mystery caller somewhere outside PDL and is it known roughly where?
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Post  poster Tue 16 Jun 2020, 10:03 pm

Freedom wrote:For once I agree with the McCanns! There seems to be no proof - it's just the opinion of one person.

Is a game being played out here? I feel sure that police (of any force) know that the McCanns are fully aware that Madeleine is dead. But the McCanns HAVE to cling on to the pretence that they believe she could still be alive, imo, as otherwise the fund is a fraud and the emperor is shown to have no clothes. There is nothing left for the McCanns to cling on to.  Once this becomes a murder investigation, the McCanns case is considerably weakened.

When the McCanns or their lawyers are asking for proof of Madeleine's death, they are effectively asking for the evidence against their position. Another way of putting it could be: 'How do you know that what we have said is not true?' The McCanns have always claimed this is a missing person case. While I do not for a minute think the McCanns are entirely innocent, it surely is a huge coincidence that a serial sex offender just so happened to be in the area at the time, just so happened to make a call at a fateful time that Thursday evening and just so happened to talk in emotive terms about Madeleine McCann.

It is possible and indeed likely, imo, that several of the hundreds of people who have come forward have given more information which might seriously incriminate this latest suspect? There may be friends, former girlfriends, other relatives, neighbours or even partners in crime who have given valuable information.

This latest suspect appears to be something of a career criminal and is a known child sex offender.  In a case this long-running and complex there is bound to be talk on the deep web (or whatever it's called) about what might have happened.  There are very many indications, imo, that the McCanns and their friends know that Madeleine died that week. We KNOW they have tried to pull other people into the crime-scene - starting with (mythical, probably) Tanner-man, then Robert Murat.  There are some indications that Murat was drawn into the investigation to find out what really happened, imo, seeing as he was privy to so many first-hand eye-witness statements. He also has wide networks and connections locally and knew the Portuguese police.

A newspaper report claims he - the latest suspect - will not be interviewed until he is shown proof that he was somehow involved.

Apparently a huge number of assaults as yet unsolved, one involving a 10-year-old in the same resort in 2005 (the same year that the suspect raped a woman in a villa nearby) and nine sexual assaults between 2004 and 2006, three attempts against British girls aged from 6 - 10 who were holidaying in the area.

German investigators believe Christian Brueckner killed Madeleine after allegedly abducting her from a holiday apartment in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz in May, 2007.

The Times reports today that investigators are also searching for a link connecting Brueckner to an incident involving a 10-year-old British girl in the same resort in 2005.

The incident took place the same year he raped a woman at a villa nearby - a crime for which he was later convicted and jailed.

The newspaper reports police were also aware of nine sexual assaults and three attempts against BritishThe newspaper reports police were also aware of nine sexual assaults and three attempts against British girls aged from six to 12 who were holidaying in the area between 2004 and 2006.

According to the newspaper, Brueckner's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher said: "Mr B is remaining silent on the allegation at this time on the advice of his defence counsel. This is quite common in criminal proceedings.

"It is the duty of the state to prove that a suspect committed a crime. No accused person has to prove his innocence to the investigating authorities."

According to the newspaper, Brueckner's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher said: "Mr B is remaining silent on the allegation at this time on the advice of his defence counsel. This is quite common in criminal proceedings.

"It is the duty of the state to prove that a suspect committed a crime. No accused person has to prove his innocence to the investigating authorities."



https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-will-not-4228717
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Post  TheTruthWillOut Tue 16 Jun 2020, 10:18 pm

I agree poster that a game is being played and pressure being put on. It just has to be at this point. I think all the things the police are asking the public about are questions they already know the answers to even if they can't prove all of it.

The whole releasing of the mobile phone numbers (for one) is so suspect and pretty ridiculous but a means to an end. What that is I'm really not sure!
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Post  dogs don't lie Tue 16 Jun 2020, 10:23 pm

Police probing Madeleine McCann suspect find kids' swimwear and 8,000 sick pics

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-probing-madeleine-mccann-suspect-22203650#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare

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Post  candyfloss Wed 17 Jun 2020, 6:07 pm

Madeleine McCann: German police want to retest mystery saliva sample

Portuguese police are unlikely to send the sample due to legal restrictions and recent criticism by the German prosecutor.

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German investigators want to retest a saliva sample found in the holiday apartment from where Madeleine McCann went missing.
Portuguese forensic tests have found no DNA match to the new suspect, German drifter Christian B.


It is believed the sample is only a trace, and in the 13 years since it was collected it has been impossible to extract any DNA profile from it.

evidence and they hope they can match it to their suspect.
But the Portuguese police (PJ) are unlikely to send the sample, partly because of recent criticism by Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor in Braunschweig.

                                       
He said last week the PJ still believed that Madeleine's parents were responsible for their daughter's disappearance from the apartment in Praia da Luz in 2007. The PJ ruled out the McCanns as suspects in 2008.


It is understood the German authorities would apply the same forensic tests as the Portuguese.

There may also be legal restrictions that would block the sample being sent abroad for retesting, although it is usual for senior investigating officers from different forces to agree to such co-operation.
In 2012 Scotland Yard detectives visited a Portuguese forensic laboratory when they were about to launch their own investigation and their request to retest hairs found in the apartment was turned down.


Prosecutor Mr Wolters refused to discuss the case or any request for the sample when contacted by Sky News.
It is not known which sample the German authorities have asked for, but many were collected and tested after Madeleine vanished.
A saliva sample found on a bedspread on a spare bed near Madeleine's was eventually matched with the DNA of a young boy whose family had stayed in the apartment the week before the McCanns


https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-german-police-want-to-retest-mystery-saliva-sample-12008482

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Post  candyfloss Wed 17 Jun 2020, 6:24 pm

I thought samples were tested here in England?  Plus weren't they destroyed by the lab after?

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Post  candyfloss Thu 18 Jun 2020, 2:11 pm


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2 weeks ago media leapt on Madeleine McCann 'new suspect' story (& conveniently wiped Covid 19 chaos & BLM off front pages). Now MSM admits the 'suspect' probably wasn't even in Portugal the day Madeleine was reported missing. Distractions, eh?

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Post  TheTruthWillOut Thu 18 Jun 2020, 3:16 pm

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2 weeks ago media leapt on Madeleine McCann 'new suspect' story (& conveniently wiped Covid 19 chaos & BLM off front pages). Now MSM admits the 'suspect' probably wasn't even in Portugal the day Madeleine was reported missing. Distractions, eh?

That would truly be despicable but I guess nothing is beyond this government. The only thing giving me pause is the largely German involvement here. I doubt they would join this charade.

But what is this about CB not even being in Portugal on the May 3rd!? What about the reported phone call and numbers?
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Post  poster Thu 18 Jun 2020, 3:21 pm

He said last week the PJ still believed that Madeleine's parents were responsible for their daughter's disappearance from the apartment in Praia da Luz in 2007. The PJ ruled out the McCanns as suspects in 2008.



I didn't think that the McCanns were ever 'ruled out' - I thought the case was shelved but that didn't necessarily rule them out.
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Post  unreorganised Thu 18 Jun 2020, 6:07 pm

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That would truly be despicable but I guess nothing is beyond this government. The only thing giving me pause is the largely German involvement here. I doubt they would join this charade.

But what is this about CB not even being in Portugal on the May 3rd!? What about the reported phone call and numbers?

I'm with you. The original German appeal was specific. The British media are just doing their own thing, as usual.


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Post  TheTruthWillOut Thu 18 Jun 2020, 8:12 pm

Yeah I'm sure if there is anything important about this latest appeal it is contained within that German PC or press release. Is there a transcript of this German appeal BTW?

Just thinking the two mobiles making the 30 minute call seems to be the key thing but the info for these phones would have to come from Portugal police, right? Yet they have been conspicuous by their absence in this latest appeal from what I've read.
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Post  dogs don't lie Thu 18 Jun 2020, 11:24 pm

Madeleine McCann police in Germany insist they have written to her parents twice

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-police-germany-insist-22216801#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare


What is going on here? confused

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Post  poster Fri 19 Jun 2020, 1:22 am

I wonder if the McCanns are lying? A radical idea, to be sure but I guess no stone should be left unturned, according to the McCanns.

Obviously, they had an audience with the pope and Rome awaited them, according to Kate/Gerry.

Special delivery in Rothley is clearly seriously affected by the coronavirus.

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