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Re: The "number 1 suspect" Christian B
Actually the letter wasn't sent to the McCanns but to Scotland Yard...…….. did they not pass it on, or tell the McCanns. All very odd.
From the Mirror article link above.
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has said two letters have been posted to the McCanns via Scotland Yard - though Maddie's parents claim they have not received any such correspondence
British police may have failed to pass on two letters to Kate and Gerry McCann from German prosecutors updating them about daughter Madeleine's disappearance, it has been claimed.
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said the first letter was to forewarn the family about the German authorities publicly announcing on June 3 that this is a murder inquiry and that Madeleine "is dead".
Mr Wolters added they wrote to the family at a later date too, with The Sun suggesting this letter was posted last week.
The prosecutor has told Italian daily la Repubblica that while he didn't write either letter, "the Federal Police in conjunction with ourselves and the British got in touch with the family".
From the Mirror article link above.
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has said two letters have been posted to the McCanns via Scotland Yard - though Maddie's parents claim they have not received any such correspondence
British police may have failed to pass on two letters to Kate and Gerry McCann from German prosecutors updating them about daughter Madeleine's disappearance, it has been claimed.
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said the first letter was to forewarn the family about the German authorities publicly announcing on June 3 that this is a murder inquiry and that Madeleine "is dead".
Mr Wolters added they wrote to the family at a later date too, with The Sun suggesting this letter was posted last week.
The prosecutor has told Italian daily la Repubblica that while he didn't write either letter, "the Federal Police in conjunction with ourselves and the British got in touch with the family".
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2 weeks ago media leapt on Madeleine McCann 'new suspect' story (& conveniently wiped Covid 19 chaos & BLM off front pages). Now MSM admits the 'suspect' probably wasn't even in Portugal the day Madeleine was reported missing. Distractions, eh?
That would truly be despicable but I guess nothing is beyond this government. The only thing giving me pause is the largely German involvement here. I doubt they would join this charade.
But what is this about CB not even being in Portugal on the May 3rd!? What about the reported phone call and numbers?
There was a media report, yesterday?, that the Jaguar was in Germany on the 4th May, the same day that the registration details were changed. It is therefore possible that CB drove the car to Germany on the 3rd and not have been in PDL
If that is so, then his phone must have been used by someone else. We've never been told the location of the person initiating that call.
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Maybe Danie Krugel was onto something after all?
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/sitebuilderpictures/dailystarsunday31012010.jpg
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/sitebuilderpictures/dailystarsunday31012010.jpg
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This in the Daily Mail...…..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8440359/Scotland-Yard-deny-theyve-failed-hand-letters-Madeleine-McCanns-parents.html
But this on twitter...……..
Scotland Yard and German federal investigators in row over Madeleine McCann as Met Police say they were only sent ONE letter and it did NOT mention proof of missing girl's death
- Kate and Gerry McCann rubbished claims they'd been sent notes by authorities
- Germans say letters to couple went to Scotland Yard - they were not passed on
- But Met Police say they've had one letter, which they sent to the McCanns and confirmed the note contained no claim that Maddie
- It comes amid a disjointed probe between forces in UK, Germany and Portugal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8440359/Scotland-Yard-deny-theyve-failed-hand-letters-Madeleine-McCanns-parents.html
But this on twitter...……..
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Seems like they may have lost the 1st letter but seriously, what police force would send a letter telling the parents their child was killed??
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froggy wrote:TheTruthWillOut wrote:candyfloss wrote:
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2 weeks ago media leapt on Madeleine McCann 'new suspect' story (& conveniently wiped Covid 19 chaos & BLM off front pages). Now MSM admits the 'suspect' probably wasn't even in Portugal the day Madeleine was reported missing. Distractions, eh?
That would truly be despicable but I guess nothing is beyond this government. The only thing giving me pause is the largely German involvement here. I doubt they would join this charade.
But what is this about CB not even being in Portugal on the May 3rd!? What about the reported phone call and numbers?
There was a media report, yesterday?, that the Jaguar was in Germany on the 4th May, the same day that the registration details were changed. It is therefore possible that CB drove the car to Germany on the 3rd and not have been in PDL
If that is so, then his phone must have been used by someone else. We've never been told the location of the person initiating that call.
Thanks for this, froggy. That is really interesting if true. The picture I saw of the Jaguar in the media showed it on a street that didn't look like Portugal. Love to know the date/location of it....
Also I remember the ex-girlfriend that said he loved the Jaguar in one of the recent articles but note that in the Mirror story linked on the first page of this thread you see a burgundy Jaguar XJ6 but what do you see in the background with its bonnet up? Umm.....
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The cars in this link? I can't tell one car from another.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-new-madeleine-mccann-suspect-22134326#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-new-madeleine-mccann-suspect-22134326#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare
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Yes, Freedom. It seems if I put together info from multiple articles he had the VW camper, 2 Jaguar XJ's and a yellow VW estate (probably a Passat) all at the same time.
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It was stated in earlier reports that he fixed, then sold cars.
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TheTruthWillOut wrote:Yes, Freedom. It seems if I put together info from multiple articles he had the VW camper, 2 Jaguar XJ's and a yellow VW estate (probably a Passat) all at the same time.
There's a Bedford van to throw into the mix now too.
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Court documents say it was seized in 2006 but the papers will throw it in anyway. Oh, and the Portuguese will have lost any evidence that was inside
Madeleine McCann suspect's van 'crushed by police destroying key evidence'
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-suspects-van-crushed-police-22223416#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare
Madeleine McCann suspect's van 'crushed by police destroying key evidence'
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-suspects-van-crushed-police-22223416#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare
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Madeleine McCann suspect's best friend believes he abducted her and sold her
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-best-friend-22230250#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-best-friend-22230250#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare
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dogs don't lie wrote:Madeleine McCann suspect's best friend believes he abducted her and sold her
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-best-friend-22230250#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare
So he has kept this suspicion to himself for 13 years? If true needs looking into. Personally I think he thinks that it is his
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Exactly! Plus, imo, this is type of person who would tell all to try and get a reward.
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dogs don't lie wrote:Exactly! Plus, imo, this is type of person who would tell all to try and get a reward.
Exactly. He and 'his sort' sounds very judgemental but true, his sort are in substantial numbers in many areas of the Med, and Portugal too. They live day by day on what they can beg , borrow or steal and sometimes even work for. Each is known of or in person from those in the area of the same ilk.
They rarely set down deep roots so they can be off at the drop of a hat and often do just that.
I am sure this guy knew the latest suspect and knew that he was a bragger as well.
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Textusa has a pic of the van that Goncalo showed, apparently, the van has cartoon characters on the front and back and he's wondering why the Germans have erased them. To me, the Germans are doing their best to keep him locked up (rightly so) but for the wrong reasons (imo). Are they trying to kill two birds with one stone?
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Good day one and all in these most strange of times. It's been a few years since I wrote here last; of course it is recent events that have led me back here once again.
My immediate thoughts on hearing the 'news' of Christian B, was that if he was involved then it would likely be as a 'removal man'. I do not believe that he murdered poor Madeleine. I believe Eddie and Keela, I believe Martin Smith. The actions of the McCanns have (in my opinion) not been those of entirely innocent people from the very beginning.
I do not believe anything I read in newspapers, the publishers of which are more desperate than ever to sell copies in this age of digital communications and global lockdown.
I suspect that this may be the winding up of the case (at least in the UK), by pointing the finger at a 'likely suspect' while unfortunately not being able to find the evidence to bring the person to trial ever. Case closed. I hope that this is not the case, and that if this man was involved in Madeleine's disappearance that this will eventually lead to the prosecutions of the person or persons responsible for Madeleine's death.
My immediate thoughts on hearing the 'news' of Christian B, was that if he was involved then it would likely be as a 'removal man'. I do not believe that he murdered poor Madeleine. I believe Eddie and Keela, I believe Martin Smith. The actions of the McCanns have (in my opinion) not been those of entirely innocent people from the very beginning.
I do not believe anything I read in newspapers, the publishers of which are more desperate than ever to sell copies in this age of digital communications and global lockdown.
I suspect that this may be the winding up of the case (at least in the UK), by pointing the finger at a 'likely suspect' while unfortunately not being able to find the evidence to bring the person to trial ever. Case closed. I hope that this is not the case, and that if this man was involved in Madeleine's disappearance that this will eventually lead to the prosecutions of the person or persons responsible for Madeleine's death.
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Regarding this extract from Pat Brown's blog:
I agree with Pat that the events of the evening speak of panic, and also have never held with the convoluted theories of decoy children, doctored photographs etc. With this in mind, I don't find it likely that Smithman would have been somebody previously hired, as I would expect a person doing that kind of morbid job would come prepared with a suitable vehicle and not potentially incriminate themselves by being seen in the streets. If Smithman really was carrying Madeleine, and Madeleine was dead, then I cannot see any other reason for that than Smithman having no other choice.
But this is all speculation as ever.
So, where does that leave us? With two possible theories. Maddie died on May 3, 2007 and panic ensued and Gerry was Smithman. Or, Maddie died the day before, panic ensued, and Gerry hired Smithman.
I agree with Pat that the events of the evening speak of panic, and also have never held with the convoluted theories of decoy children, doctored photographs etc. With this in mind, I don't find it likely that Smithman would have been somebody previously hired, as I would expect a person doing that kind of morbid job would come prepared with a suitable vehicle and not potentially incriminate themselves by being seen in the streets. If Smithman really was carrying Madeleine, and Madeleine was dead, then I cannot see any other reason for that than Smithman having no other choice.
But this is all speculation as ever.
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wlbtsreborn wrote:Good day one and all in these most strange of times. It's been a few years since I wrote here last; of course it is recent events that have led me back here once again.
My immediate thoughts on hearing the 'news' of Christian B, was that if he was involved then it would likely be as a 'removal man'. I do not believe that he murdered poor Madeleine. I believe Eddie and Keela, I believe Martin Smith. The actions of the McCanns have (in my opinion) not been those of entirely innocent people from the very beginning.
I do not believe anything I read in newspapers, the publishers of which are more desperate than ever to sell copies in this age of digital communications and global lockdown.
I suspect that this may be the winding up of the case (at least in the UK), by pointing the finger at a 'likely suspect' while unfortunately not being able to find the evidence to bring the person to trial ever. Case closed. I hope that this is not the case, and that if this man was involved in Madeleine's disappearance that this will eventually lead to the prosecutions of the person or persons responsible for Madeleine's death.
I can see a Ben Needham situation where Madeleine is dead but not enough evidence to bring any one to trial,that still would not absolve the McCanns of any involvement.
Its the last throw of the die surely,if it doesn't stick on this suspect then where else?
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Hi WLBTS-R.
Certainly agree with your point about the media - nothing useful coming from that direction!
I find much of what is currently going on confusing though. For me, CB is a match for the various "spotty man" sightings that were doing the rounds during the Edgar era. If it is him, surely he would have been sufficiently recognisable locally to be identified at the time, given his appearance, and apparent reputation.
Certainly agree with your point about the media - nothing useful coming from that direction!
I find much of what is currently going on confusing though. For me, CB is a match for the various "spotty man" sightings that were doing the rounds during the Edgar era. If it is him, surely he would have been sufficiently recognisable locally to be identified at the time, given his appearance, and apparent reputation.
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For instance :-
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id239.htm
On that page there is an article from Diário de Notícias, 08 May 2009, in which Amaral says
The musician was Barrington Godfrey Norton, who also slept in a van. Was "a man who slept in a van" Brueckner?
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id239.htm
On that page there is an article from Diário de Notícias, 08 May 2009, in which Amaral says
"We had information about strange people in the area of the McCanns' apartment. And we identified them: one was an English musician, another one was a man who slept in a van, and there was also a gardener," said Gonçalo Amaral.
The musician was Barrington Godfrey Norton, who also slept in a van. Was "a man who slept in a van" Brueckner?
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unreorganised wrote:For instance :-
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id239.htm
On that page there is an article from Diário de Notícias, 08 May 2009, in which Amaral says"We had information about strange people in the area of the McCanns' apartment. And we identified them: one was an English musician, another one was a man who slept in a van, and there was also a gardener," said Gonçalo Amaral.
The musician was Barrington Godfrey Norton, who also slept in a van. Was "a man who slept in a van" Brueckner?
I cant believe the PJ didn't do due diligence on anyone,unless they really are port swilling sardine munching vagabonds.
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