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Re: The "number 1 suspect" Christian B
wlbtsreborn wrote:Regarding this extract from Pat Brown's blog:
So, where does that leave us? With two possible theories. Maddie died on May 3, 2007 and panic ensued and Gerry was Smithman. Or, Maddie died the day before, panic ensued, and Gerry hired Smithman.
I agree with Pat that the events of the evening speak of panic, and also have never held with the convoluted theories of decoy children, doctored photographs etc. With this in mind, I don't find it likely that Smithman would have been somebody previously hired, as I would expect a person doing that kind of morbid job would come prepared with a suitable vehicle and not potentially incriminate themselves by being seen in the streets. If Smithman really was carrying Madeleine, and Madeleine was dead, then I cannot see any other reason for that than Smithman having no other choice.
But this is all speculation as ever.
The above comment from Pat is interesting as it brings into the narrative the idea that Gerry hired someone to take Madeleine or possibly to lend credence to the abduction theory. My main thought about this latest suspect is could he possibly have been someone hired to do some dirty work? Possibly he was one of the blond men seen by several witnesses on Thursday afternoon either on the terrace of empty apartment 5C or near a gate close to the apartments. In which case, what was his role?
We know that Detective Amaral believes that Madeleine died that week and that the McCanns and their friends hid her body and faked an abduction. We know that the McCanns like to incriminate other people - it's everyone's fault but their own that Madeleine was taken away despite their claim that they left the children unattended. This latest suspect would be a convenient patsy/scapegoat but that doesn't rule out any involvement albeit he may have been a relatively minor player. I wonder if Robert Murat knew (of) him?
Purely theoretically, if Detective Amaral is right then the disposal of a body in the middle of a holiday resort is a hugely tricky manoeuvre. I do believe that a large sports bag may have played a part and it appears that huge amounts of tennis were played on Thursday which might mean that a large sports bag made a number of appearances. It would be interesting to hear any testimony from other guests in relation to this.
I still subscribe to a theory that 'someone' or several people were supposed to have taken Madeleine away at around 9pm that fateful Thursday evening but that person or those people pulled out at the last minute at which point panic ensued. I think that by late afternoon on Thursday Madeleine was dead but prior to that she was sedated. I think that someone or several people might have been prepared to go along with the (faked) abduction of a live child who was sedated but was not prepared to go along with the faked abduction of a dead or dying child.
If Gerry was Smith-man then what might this suspect's role have been (if anything?) Because he certainly doesn't fit the Smith-man description.
Perhaps Detective Amaral is right and he's just a convenient scapegoat, but why would the German police risk their reputation in this way? That doesn't make sense. Perhaps this person played a role in concealment?
Pure speculation, as always.
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Re: The "number 1 suspect" Christian B
I have no idea what to think about this 'suspect'. I early on came to exactly the same conclusion as Pat Brown's, and I've not seen anything recently to change my mind. I've wondered if this is some interference connected to the EU, given the whole Brexit thing (on which I don't have much of an opinion or a side). Not a clue. I just want this case resolved, the real truth revealed, and for justice to be served appropriately.
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Some days old now, but this is Sonia Poulton's take on the German paedophile issue. Sonia is very much in agreement with Pat Brown and the majority on here:
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Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner may not be charged despite 'concrete evidence' she is dead, German prosecutors say
- Christian Brueckner, 43, recently named as a prime suspect in disappearance
- Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters claimed authorities had 'concrete evidence'
- He has now confessed the investigation 'may not lead to a charge for murder'
By Faith Ridler For Mailonline
Published: 00:43, 26 June 2020 | Updated: 00:48, 26 June 2020
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8461645/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-not-charged.html
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Re: The "number 1 suspect" Christian B
Thanks for the Sonia video, espeland. I was wondering what happened to her as she disappeared from Facebook. I've just started to listen - agree with everything so far.
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Re: The "number 1 suspect" Christian B
These photos of the cartooned up van that are doing the rounds. Would need to know when and where they were taken. If, as I suspect, they were taken when the van was tracked down by the Germans (ie., recently) then where is the evidence that it looked like that in 2007?
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Actually it's fairly easy to see (from the red "classic" VW camper that appears in the shots) that they were indeed taken at the "scrapyard" that CB apparently sold the van onto. IMO there's no way that those scribblings had been on the vehicle for 10+ years, so I would say that Amaral is talking bollocks here.
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Which van is which though? One van, (the Bedford?) was confiscated by police in 2006. He was supposed to have a Renault estate car in 2007 so when did he acquire this VW van? Was it before or after to went to Gemany in May 2007?
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The saying "Faz as malas, fugimos hoje" is a kind of Portuguese hippy call to arms, roughly translated as "Sod it, let's just get out of here".
Really the sort of thing that a German would have on his van?
Really the sort of thing that a German would have on his van?
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froggy wrote:Which van is which though? One van, (the Bedford?) was confiscated by police in 2006. He was supposed to have a Renault estate car in 2007 so when did he acquire this VW van? Was it before or after to went to Gemany in May 2007?
I'm trying to get to the bottom of that. At some point it has been put onto non-original "EU style" Portuguese plates with the date of first registration on them (July 1982). I'm not even sure whether it was originally a Portuguese or German registered vehicle.
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espeland wrote:Some days old now, but this is Sonia Poulton's take on the German paedophile issue. Sonia is very much in agreement with Pat Brown and the majority on here:
Interesting. She makes some very good points.
I still think this latest 'suspect' may have been brought in at the last minute - even if only to be a convenient scapegoat. There are layers within layers in this very strange case, imo. The Joker likes riddles and likes getting other people involved.
Kate McCann: "The bastards have taken her".
It's true he could never have a fair trial now though.
I feel sure that a car must have been involved in the early stages to remove a body from Ocean Club or surrounding areas. We know that sniffer dogs alerted to cadaver odour in the hire car that the McCanns used three weeks after the alleged abduction which indicates that a body was stored for weeks following the alleged abduction. Where was the body stored? Unless the dogs were alerting to items of clothing (for instance) or some other cross-contamination from removing evidence.
I don't believe the group could have hidden a body for any length of time without help from outside the group. Someone or several other people must know, imo. Then of course we have the story that Gerry took a fridge to the dump. This, if true, is huge. There can really only be one explanation for this. The family were in holiday accommodation - you simply don't take fridges from hired accommodation to dumps.
It is on record that early search and rescue dogs became very agitated outside empty apartment 5C which, when searched days later, was found to contain a fridge which was open with rotting food inside or nearby. I think this suggests that this empty apartment was one of the places that a body could have been hidden for a time.
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Re: The "number 1 suspect" Christian B
Pointing a finger at the German may be the closest the police can get to the real suspects.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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Freedom wrote:Another possible German patsy?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8470297/Child-snatcher-caught-carrying-two-year-old-girl-German-park.html?ito=push-notification&ci=20649&si=422748
I still think this latest suspect has some links with what happened - even if only tenuous. It could be making a few people sweat a little. And it's not impossible that he had some involvement with removal or hiding of evidence.
Of course this case and coronavirus a great distractions and provide the crisis that Cummings believes is needed to effect a 'revolution'.
A shake up may indeed be needed but I don't like the sound of this:
Cummings had particular praise for the heads of Big Tech companies, citing Bill Gates of Microsoft, Steve Jobs of Apple, and Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook as role models for government administration. His ideas, he conceded, may have sounded far-fetched, but he maintained (rather presciently) that “things are possible and they are particularly possible when crises hit”.
Ye Gods - no wonder we have made such a mess of it. Those people are not role models in my eyes and certainly shouldn't be influencing government adminstration/policy. Bill Gates in particular has used his billions to strongly influence government policy, and not in a good way, imo.
If one is going to draw parallels between the McCann case and coronavirus I think they are examples of global distractions with the mainstream media fuelling the hysteria and keeping everyone looking one way while the real action takes place behind the scenes. A good crisis to hide what is really going on and avoid accountability and public debate.
Why were the Sage meetings so 'top secret'? The public are being treated like cattle - rounded up and corralled as we are fed a diet of nonsense.
IMO!
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/05/29/dominic-cummings-whitehall-revolution-is-underway/
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If the German police are right and this latest German suspect did kill Madeleine, then I think Smith-man could have been Gerry taking a heavily sedated Madeleine towards the beach at around 10pm. I think this would have been necessitated by a major glitch to the plan to stage a faked abduction at around 9.15pm. This would account for the early eye-witness reports of a commotion about a missing child from as early as 9.20pm on the Thursday evening. It could also account for the un-jemmied shutters and the lack of any evidence. The plan went wrong but the show carried on, albeit with as many holes as a colander.
The above doesn't, however, account for the cadaver dog findings in apartment 5A unless Madeleine's body was moved back in to apartment 5A after she was killed elsewhere but this seems unlikely as the apartment was sealed off by police.
I think there are quite strong indications from TM that Madeleine died on Thursday. We had David Payne's alleged visit to apartment 5A in the late afternoon claiming the three children were dressed in white 'looking like angels'. We had Matt flagging up 'Cemetery Road' as a place they searched in the early hours after the alleged abduction. We had Gerry's alleged visit to check on his three children sleeping in the apartment at 9pm on Thursday where he eulogises about how lucky he was and how beautiful Madeleine was.
This latter - bearing in mind Gerry's behaviour on the airport bus - is probably the biggest red flag, imo, that Madeleine was no longer alive by 9pm. The over-embellishing and purple prose is what we saw with David Payne's statement too. These over-embellished accounts have to be huge red flags that something is seriously wrong, surely?
Given that Gerry allegedly bumped into Jez Wilkins right outside apartment 5A directly after he admired Madeleine sleeping, shortly after 9pm allegedly, the timing of this encounter is quite a coincidence. I wonder what the pair discussed as Jez stood with his pram? We've seen the 'reconstruction' with Jane Tanner and Matt Oldfield playing the roles.
Is it just possible that the German suspect was one of the blond men seen by several eye-witnesses on Thursday afternoon? Mrs Fenn's niece perhaps and the Jensen sisters who saw two blond men? The two blond men (Jensen sighting) were seen on the veranda of empty apartment 5C I do believe while Mrs Fenn's niece saw a man acting suspiciously letting himself out from a garden gate near the apartment. Mrs Fenn's niece's sighting is one of the most important, imo, and the most detailed which is why it is significant that Kate morphed it into the Jensen sisters' sighting and turned him from a blond man of Scandinavian appearance (according to Mrs Fenn's niece) into a man with very dark hair and North African appearance. Why would Kate not allow this suspect (or indeed any suspect) to be blond, when he very obviously was and there is such a detailed description of him from neighbour Mrs Fenn's niece? The Jensen sisters are also in no doubt that the two men they saw were blond.
Significantly, in my opinion, we have evidence that all the Tapas adults apart from the McCanns were at Paraiso beach restaurant on Thursday afternoon. This was a departure from their usual routine that week which I think makes it suspicious. It would have been far less incriminating if the group had just stuck to their usual routine but I suspect this was impossible as a 'disaster' was already unfolding.
It is also suspicious that the McCann family do not join their friends on the beach but cctv footage taken by the beach restaurant shows a crouching figure at one point which could be Kate hiding from the cctv. And a small blond boy wanders over to the TM table atone stage and is conspicuously ignored by the adults there which I think could be Sean. Is it possible that Kate, Sean and Amelie did join the group and Kate's jogging past them on the beach story (highly implausible, imo) is a cover? Presumably it was important to flag up that Madeleine was not the only child missing from the beach restaurant trip as that would be too suspicious?
Gerry is playing tennis most of Thursday afternoon and into the evening and I presume this can be verified by staff/guests/tennis coaches? This gives TM alibis for Thursday afternoon/ early evening which I think might be important to the narrative. I also think it might mean that a large sports bag (not large enough to hide a tennis racket) might have been making an appearance on Thursday afternoon/early evening. I think it is on record that the men's social tennis session (from 6pm to 7pm) ends late so the rackets cannot be stored in the pavilion (or where-ever they are stored) but are taken back to the apartments.
According to Kate in her book, David pops his head around the door of her apartment while the others had met up with Gerry at the tennis courts. So presumably the group had gone from the beach-side restaurant to the tennis courts in time for the men's social tennis session at 6pm? I wonder if David is wearing tennis gear at this time and possibly also carrying a tennis racket or sports bag? This would make sense if he was joining the men's social tennis. Presumably, the males of the group returned to their apartments to change into tennis gear and pick up their rackets and sports bags after the beach trip?
Is is possible that the suspect was involved in some way during Madeleine's final hours (imo) on the Thursday afternoon? I suspect that by Thursday morning Madeleine was heavily sedated. Was someone or several people pulled in at the final hour, as it were? We know the McCann like others to do their dirty work and confusion is good, according to Gerry.
Matt records that on his alleged check on apartment 5A at 9.30pm that on Thursday evening he saw the two twins breathing but he will not vouch for having seen Madeleine at all. I think this is strong brain-leak that by that time (at the latest) Madeleine was no longer breathing. When could Madeleine have stopped breathing, if the theories that she is dead are correct? And we now have two separate police forces stating that she is dead and the German police force stating she was killed. Kate McCann in her book talks about checking the twins for 'signs of life' and breathing after the alleged abduction. Again, I think this is strong brain-leak that breathing or not breathing had become of huge importance on Thursday. I think Fiona Payne in one of her statements mentions Kate checking on the twins breathing after discovering Madeleine missing.
I know you can't believe a word in the MSM but it appears that reports are linking Brueckner with the sightings of 'blond men' described above. However the e-fit in the press shows a man with very dark hair. But this was the e-fit reproduced in Kate's book and it seems that Kate wished to be deceptive about the blond sightings. The Jensen sisters sighting was totally ignored by TM to the extent that the sisters travelled out to Luz to speak to the McCanns directly but by then they had been made arguidos.
With regard to Mrs Fenn's niece's sighting, it is on record that both Kate and Fiona are rude to neighbour Mrs Fenn and shouted at her. This is a very strange thing to do if you believe your daughter has been abducted and a neighbour asks what all the noise is about. Mrs Fenn actually offers for the group to use her phone to call police but she is told by Gerry that police had already been called which may or may not be true depending on the exact timing of Mrs Fenn's appearance on her balcony. In any event, you would have expected the group to have questioned her, if their version of events was true. She is clearly a thorn in Kate and Fiona's side however.
The account of how Kate felt when Mrs Fenn apparently did not react with the required hysteria when Kate told her 'my little girl has been stolen from her bed' is hugely revealing, imo, and demonstrates Kate's narcissism as well as her deceptiveness, imo. It's on page 73 but the whole book speaks volumes about Kate's psychological/mental disposition.
All purely theoretical as always.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11786860/german-paedo-stalked-madeleine-flat/
The above doesn't, however, account for the cadaver dog findings in apartment 5A unless Madeleine's body was moved back in to apartment 5A after she was killed elsewhere but this seems unlikely as the apartment was sealed off by police.
I think there are quite strong indications from TM that Madeleine died on Thursday. We had David Payne's alleged visit to apartment 5A in the late afternoon claiming the three children were dressed in white 'looking like angels'. We had Matt flagging up 'Cemetery Road' as a place they searched in the early hours after the alleged abduction. We had Gerry's alleged visit to check on his three children sleeping in the apartment at 9pm on Thursday where he eulogises about how lucky he was and how beautiful Madeleine was.
This latter - bearing in mind Gerry's behaviour on the airport bus - is probably the biggest red flag, imo, that Madeleine was no longer alive by 9pm. The over-embellishing and purple prose is what we saw with David Payne's statement too. These over-embellished accounts have to be huge red flags that something is seriously wrong, surely?
Given that Gerry allegedly bumped into Jez Wilkins right outside apartment 5A directly after he admired Madeleine sleeping, shortly after 9pm allegedly, the timing of this encounter is quite a coincidence. I wonder what the pair discussed as Jez stood with his pram? We've seen the 'reconstruction' with Jane Tanner and Matt Oldfield playing the roles.
Is it just possible that the German suspect was one of the blond men seen by several eye-witnesses on Thursday afternoon? Mrs Fenn's niece perhaps and the Jensen sisters who saw two blond men? The two blond men (Jensen sighting) were seen on the veranda of empty apartment 5C I do believe while Mrs Fenn's niece saw a man acting suspiciously letting himself out from a garden gate near the apartment. Mrs Fenn's niece's sighting is one of the most important, imo, and the most detailed which is why it is significant that Kate morphed it into the Jensen sisters' sighting and turned him from a blond man of Scandinavian appearance (according to Mrs Fenn's niece) into a man with very dark hair and North African appearance. Why would Kate not allow this suspect (or indeed any suspect) to be blond, when he very obviously was and there is such a detailed description of him from neighbour Mrs Fenn's niece? The Jensen sisters are also in no doubt that the two men they saw were blond.
Significantly, in my opinion, we have evidence that all the Tapas adults apart from the McCanns were at Paraiso beach restaurant on Thursday afternoon. This was a departure from their usual routine that week which I think makes it suspicious. It would have been far less incriminating if the group had just stuck to their usual routine but I suspect this was impossible as a 'disaster' was already unfolding.
It is also suspicious that the McCann family do not join their friends on the beach but cctv footage taken by the beach restaurant shows a crouching figure at one point which could be Kate hiding from the cctv. And a small blond boy wanders over to the TM table atone stage and is conspicuously ignored by the adults there which I think could be Sean. Is it possible that Kate, Sean and Amelie did join the group and Kate's jogging past them on the beach story (highly implausible, imo) is a cover? Presumably it was important to flag up that Madeleine was not the only child missing from the beach restaurant trip as that would be too suspicious?
Gerry is playing tennis most of Thursday afternoon and into the evening and I presume this can be verified by staff/guests/tennis coaches? This gives TM alibis for Thursday afternoon/ early evening which I think might be important to the narrative. I also think it might mean that a large sports bag (
According to Kate in her book, David pops his head around the door of her apartment while the others had met up with Gerry at the tennis courts. So presumably the group had gone from the beach-side restaurant to the tennis courts in time for the men's social tennis session at 6pm? I wonder if David is wearing tennis gear at this time and possibly also carrying a tennis racket or sports bag? This would make sense if he was joining the men's social tennis. Presumably, the males of the group returned to their apartments to change into tennis gear and pick up their rackets and sports bags after the beach trip?
Is is possible that the suspect was involved in some way during Madeleine's final hours (imo) on the Thursday afternoon? I suspect that by Thursday morning Madeleine was heavily sedated. Was someone or several people pulled in at the final hour, as it were? We know the McCann like others to do their dirty work and confusion is good, according to Gerry.
Matt records that on his alleged check on apartment 5A at 9.30pm that on Thursday evening he saw the two twins breathing but he will not vouch for having seen Madeleine at all. I think this is strong brain-leak that by that time (at the latest) Madeleine was no longer breathing. When could Madeleine have stopped breathing, if the theories that she is dead are correct? And we now have two separate police forces stating that she is dead and the German police force stating she was killed. Kate McCann in her book talks about checking the twins for 'signs of life' and breathing after the alleged abduction. Again, I think this is strong brain-leak that breathing or not breathing had become of huge importance on Thursday. I think Fiona Payne in one of her statements mentions Kate checking on the twins breathing after discovering Madeleine missing.
I know you can't believe a word in the MSM but it appears that reports are linking Brueckner with the sightings of 'blond men' described above. However the e-fit in the press shows a man with very dark hair. But this was the e-fit reproduced in Kate's book and it seems that Kate wished to be deceptive about the blond sightings. The Jensen sisters sighting was totally ignored by TM to the extent that the sisters travelled out to Luz to speak to the McCanns directly but by then they had been made arguidos.
With regard to Mrs Fenn's niece's sighting, it is on record that both Kate and Fiona are rude to neighbour Mrs Fenn and shouted at her. This is a very strange thing to do if you believe your daughter has been abducted and a neighbour asks what all the noise is about. Mrs Fenn actually offers for the group to use her phone to call police but she is told by Gerry that police had already been called which may or may not be true depending on the exact timing of Mrs Fenn's appearance on her balcony. In any event, you would have expected the group to have questioned her, if their version of events was true. She is clearly a thorn in Kate and Fiona's side however.
The account of how Kate felt when Mrs Fenn apparently did not react with the required hysteria when Kate told her 'my little girl has been stolen from her bed' is hugely revealing, imo, and demonstrates Kate's narcissism as well as her deceptiveness, imo. It's on page 73 but the whole book speaks volumes about Kate's psychological/mental disposition.
All purely theoretical as always.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11786860/german-paedo-stalked-madeleine-flat/
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With regard to the blond men sighting/s, Kate in her book morphs them into one sighting, which appears to most closely correspond with Mrs Fenn's niece's sighting and he is known as 'Witness Six'. Kate writes that the witness was standing on the veranda of a first-floor apartment in the same block as 5A. We KNOW that Mrs Fenn's apartment is directly above the McCanns but Kate has chosen not to provide this detail about the proximity. Details like this matter because the fact that the witness had a very clear birds-eye view of the blond man makes the description of his appearance likely to be accurate. The description given in the book is 'Caucasian male; fair-skinned, assumed not to be Portuguese; aged 30-40; medium height; medium-slim build; very fair, cropped hair. Kate writes that the witness saw the man between 4pm and 5pm.
'Assumed not to be Portuguese' is not nearly as helpful as 'of Scandinavian appearance' which is the description that Mrs Fenn's niece gave. She described a very blond man with quite a distinctive appearance.
Kate writes that the witness thought that the gate the suspiciously acting man was coming out of was the first gate along the pathway from the road which would be the gate to apartment 5B, Matt's apartment. I think in various discussions around Mrs Fenn's niece's sighting there are suggestions that the gate he was coming out of might have been the one leading from empty apartment 5C. The police question the witness closely about exactly where this man may have been standing, and about timings.
Kate writes that Rachael, Mattt and their daughter were on the beach with the rest of their friends during the time of this sighting. And that they were away from the OC complex from before 3pm until 6pm. This is clearly very important to the narrative. Could it be during this period of time that Madeleine took her final breaths, I wonder, if we are subscribe to the view of two police forces that Madeleine is dead? Dr Amaral is of the opinion that she died on that Thursday, I do believe.
6.40pm is the time, according to Kate, that David Payne pops his head around Kate's patio door to see if he could give her a hand taking the children down to the play area as the male tennis social was going on. She describes how she had been taking a shower while the children were looking at their books and playing with their games. It was the first time, according to Kate, that she had taken a shower before the children were asleep. Another noticeable deviation from the norm! I feel almost certain that David Payne's description of seeing 'all three children' is part of the fairy-tale. If Kate is able to take a shower at this this time I think it must mean that the twins have had a little help in the sleeping department (assuming they are in there at all - its possible they were with the rest of the children). Kate describes how they are all tired and I would take this at face value.
From what I recall of the Jensen sisters' sighting, they see two blond men standing on the veranda of empty apartment 5C at a similar time during the Thursday afternoon. Whether one of the men closely resembles the man described by Mrs Fenn's niece I do not know but it would be very interesting to cross-reference their appearances. This is not given as a separate sighting in Kate's book, however and appears to have been ignored.
It is also on record that Jez Wilkins flagged up a suspicious-looking 'blond rasta-man' behaving suspiciously in or near the Tapas restaurant on Thursday evening at around 7.30pm to 8pm. This sighting is not included in Kate's book despite its obvious importance given the time and place. This man is later 'ruled out', apparently, as a surfing buddy of Gerry's who was staying at OC that week - Mike Sperrey. But perhaps it was someone else? In one description Jez places the man in the Tapas restaurant, in another he places him in the toilets near the Tapas. The latter could potentially be an important location in terms of the removal of a body.
Jez's account of what he did on Thursday evening changes depending on which statement you read. In some he also mentions a woman in a purple top seen standing in the road which is assumed by many to be Jane Tanner. I assume Jane was on the look-out for someone, several people or a car. Curiously, despite Jane's claim that she walked past Jez and Gerry talking at shortly after 9pm, neither of them appear to mention this. According to Kate in her book, Gerry is hesitant to cross over the road and speak to Jez as he had already ordered his meal but decides to do so. This detail is, imo, a deliberate distraction or diversion. Two different camps have collided, imo and it is from this point that total mayhem ensues.
IMO only as always.
'Assumed not to be Portuguese' is not nearly as helpful as 'of Scandinavian appearance' which is the description that Mrs Fenn's niece gave. She described a very blond man with quite a distinctive appearance.
Kate writes that the witness thought that the gate the suspiciously acting man was coming out of was the first gate along the pathway from the road which would be the gate to apartment 5B, Matt's apartment. I think in various discussions around Mrs Fenn's niece's sighting there are suggestions that the gate he was coming out of might have been the one leading from empty apartment 5C. The police question the witness closely about exactly where this man may have been standing, and about timings.
Kate writes that Rachael, Mattt and their daughter were on the beach with the rest of their friends during the time of this sighting. And that they were away from the OC complex from before 3pm until 6pm. This is clearly very important to the narrative. Could it be during this period of time that Madeleine took her final breaths, I wonder, if we are subscribe to the view of two police forces that Madeleine is dead? Dr Amaral is of the opinion that she died on that Thursday, I do believe.
6.40pm is the time, according to Kate, that David Payne pops his head around Kate's patio door to see if he could give her a hand taking the children down to the play area as the male tennis social was going on. She describes how she had been taking a shower while the children were looking at their books and playing with their games. It was the first time, according to Kate, that she had taken a shower before the children were asleep. Another noticeable deviation from the norm! I feel almost certain that David Payne's description of seeing 'all three children' is part of the fairy-tale. If Kate is able to take a shower at this this time I think it must mean that the twins have had a little help in the sleeping department (assuming they are in there at all - its possible they were with the rest of the children). Kate describes how they are all tired and I would take this at face value.
From what I recall of the Jensen sisters' sighting, they see two blond men standing on the veranda of empty apartment 5C at a similar time during the Thursday afternoon. Whether one of the men closely resembles the man described by Mrs Fenn's niece I do not know but it would be very interesting to cross-reference their appearances. This is not given as a separate sighting in Kate's book, however and appears to have been ignored.
It is also on record that Jez Wilkins flagged up a suspicious-looking 'blond rasta-man' behaving suspiciously in or near the Tapas restaurant on Thursday evening at around 7.30pm to 8pm. This sighting is not included in Kate's book despite its obvious importance given the time and place. This man is later 'ruled out', apparently, as a surfing buddy of Gerry's who was staying at OC that week - Mike Sperrey. But perhaps it was someone else? In one description Jez places the man in the Tapas restaurant, in another he places him in the toilets near the Tapas. The latter could potentially be an important location in terms of the removal of a body.
Jez's account of what he did on Thursday evening changes depending on which statement you read. In some he also mentions a woman in a purple top seen standing in the road which is assumed by many to be Jane Tanner. I assume Jane was on the look-out for someone, several people or a car. Curiously, despite Jane's claim that she walked past Jez and Gerry talking at shortly after 9pm, neither of them appear to mention this. According to Kate in her book, Gerry is hesitant to cross over the road and speak to Jez as he had already ordered his meal but decides to do so. This detail is, imo, a deliberate distraction or diversion. Two different camps have collided, imo and it is from this point that total mayhem ensues.
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According to Kate in her book, Gerry and her dropped off Sean and Amelie at the toddler club at around 2.40pm on the Thursday and Madeleine ten minutes later, at 2.50pm. Ella was already there, according to Kate.
Another first happened for the McCanns on that Thursday as, according to Kate in her book, the pair had booked an hour-long couples tennis lesson with the professional coach at 3.30pm. This was another deviation from their routine that week.
However, as the courts were unoccupied, they decided to have a knock-up for the first half hour. So that places Kate and Gerry, allegedly, on the tennis court at 3pm. Their lesson finished at 4.30pm but apparently another guest appeared towards the end of the lesson and he and Gerry decided to have a game together. (I wonder who this was? Presumably there are witnesses to this if the coach was there?) Kate then claims she went for a run along the beach where she spotted the rest of the group who saw her and shouted out, allegedly. Why on earth didn't she join them (although see thread on the Paraiso cctv footage?)
By 5.30pm Kate is allegedly at the Tapas area where Madeleine and the twins are having tea with Gerry.
Kate writes that she asked Madeleine if she had been OK at the club when Ella left to go to the beach? This is another of those Kate claims (rather like the crying incident claim) that in no shape or form rings true. This is because, imo, this never happened. Kate never asked Madeleine that question just like Madeleine on Thursday morning never asked her parents why they hadn't come when she and Sean had cried. And Madeleine didn't 'just drop it' either. None of those claims ring true to me.
By 5.40pm, according to Kate, the five of them were back at the apartment and Madeleine had been so exhausted that Kate carried her back and they skipped playtime. Gerry met the other Tapas males at 6pm for the men's social tennis.
I think the above deviation from routine and deviation from their friends is a huge red flag and points to the period of time between 3pm and 6pm or so on Thursday being highly sensitive. This just so happens to be the time of the 'blond men' sightings. This may, of course, be a coincidence. But 'something' is going on on Thursday afternoon, imo, and it's not just tennis.
I must get a life. Is there such a thing as 'lock-down' viral fatigue? I think I have it!
Another first happened for the McCanns on that Thursday as, according to Kate in her book, the pair had booked an hour-long couples tennis lesson with the professional coach at 3.30pm. This was another deviation from their routine that week.
However, as the courts were unoccupied, they decided to have a knock-up for the first half hour. So that places Kate and Gerry, allegedly, on the tennis court at 3pm. Their lesson finished at 4.30pm but apparently another guest appeared towards the end of the lesson and he and Gerry decided to have a game together. (I wonder who this was? Presumably there are witnesses to this if the coach was there?) Kate then claims she went for a run along the beach where she spotted the rest of the group who saw her and shouted out, allegedly. Why on earth didn't she join them (although see thread on the Paraiso cctv footage?)
By 5.30pm Kate is allegedly at the Tapas area where Madeleine and the twins are having tea with Gerry.
Kate writes that she asked Madeleine if she had been OK at the club when Ella left to go to the beach? This is another of those Kate claims (rather like the crying incident claim) that in no shape or form rings true. This is because, imo, this never happened. Kate never asked Madeleine that question just like Madeleine on Thursday morning never asked her parents why they hadn't come when she and Sean had cried. And Madeleine didn't 'just drop it' either. None of those claims ring true to me.
By 5.40pm, according to Kate, the five of them were back at the apartment and Madeleine had been so exhausted that Kate carried her back and they skipped playtime. Gerry met the other Tapas males at 6pm for the men's social tennis.
I think the above deviation from routine and deviation from their friends is a huge red flag and points to the period of time between 3pm and 6pm or so on Thursday being highly sensitive. This just so happens to be the time of the 'blond men' sightings. This may, of course, be a coincidence. But 'something' is going on on Thursday afternoon, imo, and it's not just tennis.
I must get a life. Is there such a thing as 'lock-down' viral fatigue? I think I have it!
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/features/learning-points-give-madeleine-mccanns-family-the-space-to-put-their-lives-back-together-1008645.html
link to dreadful article in quality (normally) Irish paper saying basically McCanns treated badly by us all over the years and now, with this German found we should all feel more guilty as he did it.
link to dreadful article in quality (normally) Irish paper saying basically McCanns treated badly by us all over the years and now, with this German found we should all feel more guilty as he did it.
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I will try to read this later but just a cursory glance has affected my blood pressure. I've posted the link on Pat Brown's Facebook page - I'm sure she will have something to say about it.
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Martin Smith will be shaking his head I bet.
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It all happened at 9pm
Antonia wrote:https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/features/learning-points-give-madeleine-mccanns-family-the-space-to-put-their-lives-back-together-1008645.html
link to dreadful article in quality (normally) Irish paper saying basically McCanns treated badly by us all over the years and now, with this German found we should all feel more guilty as he did it.
The usual load of rubbish. The McCann PR machine is still operating, it would seem. Why did the couple court publicity so much in the first place? They can't have it all ways. They made no attempt to shield the twins from the full media glare, despite the fact that they were alleging that Madeleine's abductor was still 'out there'.
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Snipped from the link below. The last person to see Madeleine alive, allegedly, was her father Gerry McCann at around 9pm when he is reported to have admired how beautiful Madeleine was as she slept and thought how lucky he was to have three children. Madeleine's mother was the first person to discover that Madeleine had disappeared, allegedly, when she checked on the children at around 10pm.
And we are now being told by the media that at around the time Gerry checked on Madeleine at 9pm, the German suspect was making a phone call from just outside the apartment. This would place him very near the place where Gerry allegedly bumped into Jez on the road outside apartment 5A at shortly after 9pm. Talk about a positive crowd of people just outside apartment 5A shortly after 9pm that Thursday evening!
We have Madeleine's father Gerry - the last person, allegedly, to see Madeleine alive. We have Jez Wilkins, who allegedly just so happens to bump into Gerry right outside apartment 5A as he (Jez) is wheeling his pram around getting his child to sleep. We have Jane Tanner who had been checking on her own children, allegedly, and who walks past both Gerry and Jez who, inexplicably, don't see her. We have the alleged abductor - Tanner-man holding a child - who Jane Tanner claims is stealing Madeleine away who, inexplicably, Jez doesn't see.
And now we have another character to join the cast, apparently - Christian Brueckner who it is claimed made a phone call in almost exactly the same place and at almost exactly the same time as all the above was going on. That's a total of five people apparently outside apartment 5A just after Gerry allegedly last saw Madeleine alive.
The suspect in Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, Christian Brueckner, reportedly made a phone call on the night she vanished from just outside the last place she was seen alive.
The German man allegedly used a phone outside the Ocean Club complex which is where McCann disappeared from in 2007.
“The only thing I can say at the moment is that this also includes the telephone number of the Portuguese prepaid card that was called from the German suspect’s cellphone,” Cerne told Focus.
“Not even an hour before Maddie disappeared.
“The call also came from the same place where the little girl was last seen alive, in Praia da Luz in the Algarve.”
https://7news.com.au/news/missing-person/madeleine-mccann-suspect-made-call-from-where-she-was-last-seen-an-hour-before-disappearance-c-1139780
I suppose the million dollar question is who was Brueckner calling and why?
He added the telephone number allegedly called by Brueckner shortly before Madeleine's disappearance may have a 'very large role' in the ongoing investigation.
'Apparently this telephone number, which was called from the suspect's mobile phone shortly before Maddie's disappearance, has a very large role in the investigation,' Mr Cerne said.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8480137/Christian-Brueckner-call-club-Madeleine-parents-staying.html#reader-comments
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8489435/Detective-lived-door-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-working-police-her.html?ito=push-notification&ci=21352&si=10306854
It mentions Sandra Felgueiras who has had a brain transplant and now believes the McCanns.
It mentions Sandra Felgueiras who has had a brain transplant and now believes the McCanns.
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Google translate.
04.07.2020
Madeleine McCann
Prosecutors do not apply for a warrant
There is "currently no urgent suspicion".
Braunschweig - In the missing case of Madeleine McCann, the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig sees no way of issuing an arrest warrant against the accused Christian B. There is "currently no urgent suspicion of crime," the first prosecutor told Spiegel.
According to the public prosecutor, there is also no time pressure during the investigations. "We assume that Christian B. will remain in custody at least until the beginning of 2021 for other crimes," it said.
The investigators had recently sought public witnesses again. Investigators suspect that the girl was kidnapped and killed in Portugal in 2007.
The accused is currently serving a sentence in Kiel for a drug offense. On July 16, the European Court of Justice will decide whether a further rape conviction should be brought into line with the International Legal Assistance Act. B. makes use of his right to remain silent.
https://newsburger.de/madeleine-mccann-staatsanwaltschaft-beantragt-keinen-haftbefehl-128364.html
04.07.2020
Madeleine McCann
Prosecutors do not apply for a warrant
There is "currently no urgent suspicion".
Braunschweig - In the missing case of Madeleine McCann, the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig sees no way of issuing an arrest warrant against the accused Christian B. There is "currently no urgent suspicion of crime," the first prosecutor told Spiegel.
According to the public prosecutor, there is also no time pressure during the investigations. "We assume that Christian B. will remain in custody at least until the beginning of 2021 for other crimes," it said.
The investigators had recently sought public witnesses again. Investigators suspect that the girl was kidnapped and killed in Portugal in 2007.
The accused is currently serving a sentence in Kiel for a drug offense. On July 16, the European Court of Justice will decide whether a further rape conviction should be brought into line with the International Legal Assistance Act. B. makes use of his right to remain silent.
https://newsburger.de/madeleine-mccann-staatsanwaltschaft-beantragt-keinen-haftbefehl-128364.html
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So we're back to square one by the sounds of it.
It's all very well trying to fit someone up for a crime but there needs to be some evidence to support the charge.
It's all very well trying to fit someone up for a crime but there needs to be some evidence to support the charge.
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