The "number 1 suspect" Christian B

Mum claims Maddie suspect Christian Brueckner 'exposed himself' to her daughter

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-claims-maddie-suspect-christian-22306405#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare

Freedom wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8489435/Detective-lived-door-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-working-police-her.html?ito=push-notification&ci=21352&si=10306854

It mentions Sandra Felgueiras who has had a brain transplant and now believes the McCanns.

I'm not sure about believes the McCanns; I thought she had a downer on Amaral? I've got to admit I wasn't very impressed with the stunt with the van pictures, and I'd be very surprised if Brueckner's hair was able to grow by the amount claimed between his imprisonment for the fuel thefts and the following May.

It's possible it was all a distraction but why would the German police bother?  

I do however believe that the gruesome twosome have some quite unsavoury family members, friends and acquaintances and I believe they dragged all sorts of people into this, some of whom would have been attracted by financial incentives which became possible after the fund was set up, purportedly to 'find' Madeleine.

I wonder if police ever resolved the very sad case of Ricardo Cunha who I do believe was the son of one of Dr Amaral's cousins, who was shot dead at point blank range on his doorstep on 11th September 2009? This young man worked as a window cleaner, lived in West Norwood and had no links to the crime world, according to the police.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12283934

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350783/Football-fan-shot-dead-90-year-old-gun-watched-Match-Day.html

poster wrote:It's possible it was all a distraction but why would the German police bother?  

I do however believe that the gruesome twosome have some quite unsavoury family members, friends and acquaintances and I believe they dragged all sorts of people into this, some of whom would have been attracted by financial incentives which became possible after the fund was set up, purportedly to 'find' Madeleine.

Yes, that is true.

Assume that the German is the man responsible. Amaral is going to be embarrassed; the PJ seem to know all about him but didn't finger him for the crime. To be fair it's not entirely their fault, they were being sent all over the place on wild goose chases, often by the family themselves. How much time was spent investigating Murat?

Indeed. Detective Amaral was working under extraordinarily difficult circumstances.

However, Murat was known to both the Portuguese and the UK police. Did either police force ever seriously think he was 'the abductor'? I think not. He had a role to play, imo. He also received a large payment following his arguido status and media reports about him. Would have softened the blow I imagine.  

I suppose one might subscribe to the idea that it is quite cheap, allegedly, to hire a hit man or woman.

I'm probably on a wild goose chase, but I can't help thinking that the blond, Scandinavian-looking man who neighbour Mrs Fenn's niece describes seeing letting himself out of a gate from a front garden near apartment 5A on that Thursday afternoon looks a bit like this German suspect, in a photo of him with a suntan (albeit not very cropped hair)? Photo in link below.

He who pays the piper calls the tune, so they say.

https://en.mogaznews.com/World-News/1529609/Luxury-villa-where-new-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-raped-a-.html

It may well have been the alleged new suspect casing joints for some random burglary attempts, doesn't make him an abductor though, the perfect patsy has Amaral describes him.But if and it's a big if he was around at the time he needs eliminating, a witness of the events in the night he may well be imo.

Heisenburg wrote:It may well have been the alleged new suspect casing joints for some random burglary attempts, doesn't make him an abductor though, the perfect patsy has Amaral describes him.But if and it's a big if he was around at the time he needs eliminating, a witness of the events in the night he may well be imo.

Brueckner certainly fits the description of the man seen by Tasmin Silence and others - but for having short hair rather than Amaral's claimed "dreadlocks". They interesting thing for me is that the man was making no effort to be inconspicuous.

I just don't understand why the German police are pointing the finger at him in terms of the death of Madeleine McCann.  Could he possibly have been pulled in at the last minute to do whatever was necessary on Thursday afternoon?

The Tapas group make much of their visit to the beach on Thursday afternoon and they are even captured on cctv so we know that this trip happened and I think it is important to their narrative that they were all away from Ocean Club that afternoon. Gerry also had an alibi for Thursday afternoon as he was playing tennis for hours. Kate claims she was jogging on the beach but I think the crouching figure in the cctv footage pf Paraiso beach restaurant is Kate crouching down to avoid the camera. And I think Sean wanders up to the table at one point and is conspicuously ignored by the adults. Which I think might suggest that Amelie was also there somewhere off camera that afternoon.

This accounts for all the group apart from Madeleine. I assume the only reason that the McCanns deviated from the routine of their friends on Thursday afternoon was because Madeleine was in no fit state to be around and it would have been too conspicuous if she had been the only person missing. So it was claimed that Madeleine and the twins went to their clubs that afternoon. It is suspicious, imo, that the other children didn't as well but I think the adults need an alibi for Thursday afternoon and want to keep the children - and themselves - away from the Ocean Club premises. Why would that be, I wonder? Realistically, it can only be because of what had happened or was happening to Madeleine.

Where was Madeleine on Thursday afternoon and what was happening to her? IF  there is any truth at all in the German police claim that this latest suspect was involved in her death in some way, then could he have been in and around Ocean Club that afternoon, and not just casing the joint for a burglary?

Police have stated he was on his mobile right outside apartment 5A in the evening at around the time that Gerry had just checked on Madeleine at 9pm and then bumped into Jez Wilkins. This is a truly critical time as it was the last time Gerry saw Madeleine alive (allegedly, although I feel sure she was dead by then) and it is shortly before a commotion about a missing child was first heard, as early as 9.15pm or 9.20pm.

Jane walks past the pair -  Gerry and Jez - who inexplicably don't see her and it is at this point that Jane claims she saw Tanner-man taking Madeleine away, further up the road. What a truly extraordinary coincidence (there are so many in this case!) that this latest suspect just so happens to be on his mobile at almost exactly the same time that Gerry last sees Madeleine (allegedly) and also bumps into Jez Wilkins. IF the German police are correct about Brueckner's location right outside the apartment then surely Brueckner would have bumped into Gerry, Jez and Jane? Or at least see or be seen by them? That can be the only logical conclusion if the German police are correct about his location at that particular time on Thursday evening.

Stranger and stranger. A positive crush of people just outside apartment 5A at such a critical time in the evening.

In Jez' first police statement he points a finger of suspicion to a blond man (but with 'rasta' style hair) who he says was acting suspiciously in the Tapas restaurant at around 7.30pm that evening. Jez's version of events of what he did and where he was that evening changes in different statements but he does state he saw a woman in a purple top who is widely assumed to have been Jane Tanner.

Now Brueckner appears to have joined the melee outside that apartment just before Madeleine was found missing.

A full cast of characters, it would seem. Where is Inspector Poirot when you need him?

There was some speculation at one point that something could have happened to Madeleine earlier in the week in Burgau. The 'what's so special about Burgau' thread over the way goes into much discussion about what might have happened and where. There was speculation that the very weird photo of Madeleine wearing blue eye-shadow and looking sad which was released by her parents three years after her disappearance might have been taken at the Solimar apartment at Burgau where hair samples whose haplotypes matched Jane Tanner and Robert Murat were found after the apartment was searched.

Police had gone there after reports of a couple photographing children on the beach in Sagres early during that fateful week (I think on Monday?) This was reported by Nuno Lourenco. Robert Murat's Uncle Ralph Eveleigh provided cctv footage of the couple visiting his beach bar in Burgau. Police were able to trace the hire car to a Polish man and woman staying at the Solimar Apartments.

There were suggestions that this might have been the 'last photo' taken of Madeleine. It was certainly a very strange choice of photo to release three years after her disappearance. The suspicious-looking Polish couple photographing children on the beach were reported by Nuno Lourenco de Jesus who I think might have had a sister who was a Sky news anchor who knew Robert Murat and whose father was a ship owner - Corlett Lines (or something?) Memory a bit fuzzy on all this but some interesting links perhaps.

The point being, IF there was something fishy going on earlier in the week (Monday is a day that is conspicuous in it's absence in Kate's book - no account at all of what happened in the day) then this is important to understanding what might have happened. The parents and their friends have themselves suggested that the motive for Madeleine's disappearance might have been paedophilia. I would take that at face value. We now have German police claiming that a known criminal and paedophile had something to do with Madeleine's death. This does not, imo, rule out any involvement by the McCanns or their friends. But it points a finger at a known paedophile in connection with this case. Police seized images from a property he lived in. I presume they also investigated his computer/internet use. They would have gained information from this. What contacts did he have? Was he on particular sites in the 'dark web' or whatever it's called? Paedophiles apparently do operate in rings. The police have placed him as making a mobile call very near apartment 5A just after 9pm on Thursday evening. That's slap-bang in the middle of the action, imo.
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It is a FACT that German police have implicated him in some way in the death of Madeleine McCann. It is a FACT that he is a known paedophile. It is a FACT that the McCanns and their friends have claimed Madeleine might have been stolen by a paedophile or paedophile gang. It is a FACT that members of the group claim they had a conversation about paedophilia with an Ocean Club guest, Nigel from Southampton, on Thursday morning while standing at the grassy area near the tennis courts. Madeleine's group were not playing tennis that morning yet it appears that Russell was filming Nigel's daughter playing mini-tennis.

Nigel's police statement is missing from the PJ files but I suspect it might have been quite incriminating. Kate puts words into Nigel's mouth in her book and makes claims that may or may not be true, imo. We know what Katherina Gaspar had to say about David Payne's behaviour on a previous family holiday. We don't know what Nigel said, but Kate's account of what Nigel said is extremely peculiar, imo. Why did she even include this exchange in her book? It's downright perverse in my opinion and is an invasion of Nigel's privacy.

I wonder if there are any dots to join here or possible links? Some of this is research by 'Blackwatch' (see link below). No idea how accurate it is but it gives some background ideas.

The municipality of Aljezur - Nuno Lourenco (reported the suspicious-looking Polish couple photographing his daughter at the beach at Sagres) was born here. The latest suspect, Brueckner,  lived here for a time and one of the missing children that have been connected with him went missing from here while the suspect lived locally. I think it is

Germany - Nuno moved to Germany with his German wife and lived there for 14 years. Russell O Brien admits he received a text message from a friend in Germany just as they arrived at the Ocean Club on April 28. The same day that the Polish couple flew from Berlin Airport to Faro, arriving at the Solimar apartments.  Brueckner's mobile phone was used close to apartment 5A on the evening of the alleged abduction of Madeleine. One call was at around 7.30pm and another was just after 9pm. These are obviously hugely important times in terms of Madeleine's disappearance.

Robert Murat made to trips to Germany with his Remax friend, Rui Cristino,  for the sale of a car. Nuno de Jesus and his German wife, Birgit Erdmann  lived in Germany at the time of the event. Nuno was in Sagres visiting his mother who lived there. Brueckner, the latest suspect, is from Germany and is linked with crimes in Germany, as well as Portugal including the torture and rape of a woman at a villa in Luz in 2005. The suspect filmed this and showed the film to a third party who reported this to police.

Rural properties: An empty property near the Almadena Windmill and Trig Point in Praia da Luz was destroyed within weeks of Madeleine's disappearance (mentioned in Mark Harrison's search report for the NPIA). If this had links to any of the property managers here, any evidence would be  buried in  rubble (which was taken away). Almadena is a few minutes drive from the beaches of Luz with three golf courses nearby. Brueckner lived in a property called 'Escola Vehla' which means 'old school house' a couple of miles away from Ocean Club. It is not far from the beach and the area where the McCanns went jogging. (See link below.)

Murat - The suspicious Polish couple, Malgorzata and Krokowski, were captured on cctv images  at The Beach Bar restaurant in Burgau and handed over to police by the owner of the Restaurant, Ralph Eveleigh, Robert Murat's uncle.  He gave  a detailed witness account of a conversation he had with the couple.  Malgorzata appears to have had convictions for drugs and drinks offences and for 'obtaining property by deception (according to the link below). The Solimar Apartments where the Polish couple stayed were designed and built by Jacinto and Murat, the property development company in Lagos once co-owned by Murat's father and now under the directorship of his old partner and architect, Joao Jacinto.

Forensic tests of hair samples found in the Solimar Apartment (owned by a British couple from Cardiff)  were identical haplotype matches to Tanner and Murat. This means that the samples were either from them or two people having the same maternal bloodline.

Murat spent a month in Exeter prior to returning to Portugal on May 1.  Exeter is the home town of Tanner and O Brien.  In her rogatory interviews Tanner admits to having visited Lagos some years before (where Murat has several business interests) but stresses she had never stayed in Lagos. Where she did stay isn't recorded.

Jane Tanner did not take part in the line-up  organised by the Police between to see whether Robert Murat was identified. O Brien, Rachel Oldfield and  Fiona Payne were there but Tanner, Matthew Oldfield and David Payne were absent.

This is interesting - never heard of this case before but in the light of so many unsolved disappearances it is certainly of note (snipped directly from 'Blacksmith':

Will Burgau yield any further clues? Who knows. It's not the first time either the village or German Nationals are mentioned in the files. The Murat family used to have a home in the district, Murat's father had another business project in the district called Burgau Investimentos Turisticos Lda (with an unspecified Englishman) and a search of Murat's cousin, Sally Eveleigh's Salsalito guest house was also undertaken by Police. And then we have another German man - 69 year old Karl Kleine Brocknoff disappearing and then being found dead in mysterious circumstances in June 2007 - not far from where any of this took place.



https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t10602p25-was-wojcek-krokowski-sagres-man-with-a-camera-the-template-for-both-tannerman-and-smithman

https://www.joshwho.net/police-hunt-madeleine-mccann-suspects-underage-kosovan-ex-who-lived-with-him-in-praia-da-luz/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8389673/He-no-friends-Suspect-Madeleine-McCanns-disappearance-loner.html


The German man Karl Kleine Brocknoff who disappeared in June 2007 in suspicious circumstances.


https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/another-algarve-kidnapping-german-tourist-disappears-in-portugal-a-488819.html

His body was found: https://www.portugalresident.com/body-of-missing-german-tourist-is-found/

Is Thomas Klein-Brockhoff related to the German who disappeared in suspicious circumstances in the Algarve in June 2007?


https://www.gmfus.org/commentary/mind-corona-trap

This story written at the end of June 2007 highlights the 'bizarre coincidence' of the two disappearances.


There is a bizarre coincidence in the resort area of the Algarve Coast in Portugal in which a 3-year old girl and 70-year old man have disappeared without a trace — in two separate incidents. One might suggest that sort of thing happens every day in large cities — and of course, I’m fully aware that Iraqis are experiencing human trauma on the level of 9/11 about every 8 days.
3-year old Madeleine McCann was kidnapped from her apartment while her parents dined at a restaurant next door, and Karl Kleine-Brockhoff disappeared while hiking four miles from his rented villa to a small village to meet his wife and friends.
Kleine-Brockhoff is the father of Thomas Kleine-Brockhoff, a well known international journalist who was Washington Bureau Chief of Die Zeit and has been a blogger on occasion for the Washington Post. He begins a new position with the German Marshall Fund in Washington next Monday.



https://washingtonnote.com/madeleine_and_k/

FFS Poster, I was hoping with the appearance of Brueckner that a depressingly straightforward resolution was around the corner. Now you've dug another rabbit hole!

By the way, any excursion from PdL to Burgau or Sagres would be akin to breaking up the monotony of a week in Blackpool with a quick visit to Fleetwood, or Cleveleys. There is literally nothing in either place.

unreorganised wrote:FFS Poster, I was hoping with the appearance of Brueckner that a depressingly straightforward resolution was around the corner. Now you've dug another rabbit hole!

By the way, any excursion from PdL to Burgau or Sagres would be akin to breaking up the monotony of a week in Blackpool with a quick visit to Fleetwood, or Cleveleys. There is literally nothing in either place.

I think that the politics swirling around this case might possibly explain why the German police have come onboard, as it were! One way of looking at the whole thing might be that what was stalling the arrest of Brueckner, or at least convictions for a series of crimes, were possible connections to the McCann case. Here we appear to have a convicted paedophile with a connection to the case - this could throw up a veritable can of worms at a time when British leadership could not look more incompetent.

On which note, could there be a political motive for the disappearance of the German tourist in June 2007 in the Algarve? Certainly not impossible. The German tourist whose body was later found appears to have a relative in high places politically.

Has there been something of a 'cold war' going on between Germany and the UK? The differences between the two leaders could not be more pronounced, imo. This has been demonstrated by the coronavirus scamdemic handling. The bumbling Boris with his incompetent henchmen parroted: 'We are following the science' when it was blindingly obvious that they weren't. The German leadership was efficient - Merkel has a scientific background and a trained mind.

unreorganised wrote:FFS Poster, I was hoping with the appearance of Brueckner that a depressingly straightforward resolution was around the corner. Now you've dug another rabbit hole!

By the way, any excursion from PdL to Burgau or Sagres would be akin to breaking up the monotony of a week in Blackpool with a quick visit to Fleetwood, or Cleveleys. There is literally nothing in either place.

Its either KISS or highly complicated with nothing in between.

I’m fully aware that Iraqis are experiencing human trauma on the level of 9/11 about every 8 days.?


Snipped from the link above.

I'm glad that the press has flagged up that Brueckner looks like the man that Carole Tranmer - neighbour Mrs Fenn's niece - saw. Now, why would Kate in her book have allowed the e-fit of this man to be dark haired I wonder? Carol Tranmer described a man of Scandinavian appearance whereas the man in Kate's book is dark of almost north African appearance.

There is no way the e-fit of the man seen by Tranmer (and others?) has hair that matched Tranmer's description. I think Kate 'morphed' a few sightings to be deceptive about the colour of this particular suspect's hair. Why would she bother to do that? A bit like insisting that Tanner-man and Smith-man are one and the same person. These sightings must be sensitive otherwise why would Kate not allow them as separate sightings with accurate descriptions?

I think it is significant that at the time of Carol Tranmer's sighting all of the group are away from Ocean Club and all have alibis apart from Kate who claims she was jogging on the beach that afternoon but I think the cctv of the beach restaurant captures her crouching out of view of the cctv camera. Gerry was playing tennis most of the afternoon and there would be witnesses to this.

Why did the group change their routine on this day of of all days? It would have looked so much less suspicious if Thursday had just been the same routine as before, but it wasn't. Why were the friends of the McCanns away from OC for most of the afternoon? This is suspicious, imo, and I feel that if they could have stuck to their routine they would have done.  The kid's clubs would almost definitely have been planning some kind of end of week performance for the parents to watch on the final day of the week, Friday, prior to guests departures on Saturday. Surely the children would have wanted to practise for this? Why on this day in particular would Madeleine not have joined her friends to play? It makes the McCanns claim that all was well until the random mystery abductor struck look weak. Madeleine was separated from the group on Thursday. Why? The parents have given no good explanation for this.

I think this is because by Thursday the group have far bigger fish to fry than worrying about excuses as to why Madeleine was separated from her friends. Far, far bigger fish.

I think that as well as being deceptive about what was happening/had happened to Madeleine by then (which meant she had to be out of sight by Thursday although I think she was out of sight by Monday) the group also want alibis for the Thursday afternoon and want to distance themselves from the club. I think they want the children away from Ocean Club that afternoon. If Detective Amaral is right and Madeleine died and the parents faked an abduction and hid her body then I think the time that Madeleine was removed from the club would have been Thursday mid afternoon to early evening.

Brueckner may very well be the 'patsy' or 'fall guy' that Dr Amaral talks of, but in my opinion,  if this is the case, he would have been set up for this. I don't in any way think this takes the finger of suspicion away from the McCanns and their friends. Brueckner would, however, be a handy person to have hanging around if you were claiming that your child was abducted by a paedophile. I think it is likely that a car would have been used on Thursday to remove Madeleine. This car would have had to belong to someone who was not obviously connected with the group, imo.

If Brueckner had been living in the Luz area for some years, as appears to be the case, he would have had contacts locally. Local people such as Robert Murat, for instance, would likely know him or at least know of him. I would imagine he had gained some sort of notoriety, judging by his past.

I don't believe that the German police would be pointing a finger at Brueckner if he had zero connection with the case. Something links him to Madeleine's death.  I also think it is interesting that the McCanns are still insisting she could be alive. They have to stick with that narrative, imo, otherwise the house of cards falls down.

All purely speculation as always.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5672668/madeleine-mccann-witness-christian-b/

Detective Superintendent Hill tows the 'bungling Portuguese police' line apparently.

Although this is interesting: Detective Superintendent Hill – who had secured the world’s first conviction based on familial DNA – could have helped while the evidence was still fresh.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8416013/Bungling-local-Madeleine-McCann-officers-froze-says-UK-detective.html

I've often wondered if all that larking about a mile or so off shore was body disposal time. An ideal opportunity for a bag to go missing.

Doesn't explain smithman though

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8511639/Portuguese-police-launch-search-Madeleine-McCanns-body-Algarve.html

Quite a long way from PdL; would hopefully suggest acting on some very specific intelligence.

unreorganised wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8511639/Portuguese-police-launch-search-Madeleine-McCanns-body-Algarve.html

Quite a long way from PdL; would hopefully suggest acting on some very specific intelligence.

"The searches are said to have been conducted in wells in Vila do Bispo, a 20 minute drive west of Praia da Luz where the British youngster vanished in May 2007."

Just reading on twitter that Gerry's phone pinged there on 26 July 2007 after Kate picked him up at the airport following a trip to the USA.

13 yrs of sediment isn't going to be searched in a day.

unreorganised wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8511639/Portuguese-police-launch-search-Madeleine-McCanns-body-Algarve.html

Quite a long way from PdL; would hopefully suggest acting on some very specific intelligence.

The last thing you would do if your water supply was from a well would be to contaminate the water with anything let alone a body.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm


"The newspapers Correio da Manha 24Horas and Diraio de Noticias being consulted on 23 and 24 July, it was found that Gerald travelled alone on this occasion to Washington, USA.

The return to Portugal occurred on 26th. The first activation happened at 16:41:06 on the antenna "Faro Airport". One minute and twenty seconds later the same antenna came to be activated, being followed by the antennae: "Pedra de ?ua"; "Boliqueime"; "Vila do Bispo"; "Budens" and "Praia da Luz" at 17:31:23, 17:32:27, 19:05:21, 19:10:35 and 19:49:38, respectively.

Kate went to the airport to meet her husband.

Given the [above] records it would seem that Gerald McCann will not have gone directly to the village where he resided while he was in our country, having gone to Vila do Bispo, only then he returned to the referred village at, or before 19:49:38. "