The "number 1 suspect" Christian B

This is crazy. The Irish Times article linked to by Freedom, is the one I posted about earlier today.

However the headline is different, the photo has been changed and the last paragraph referring to his criminal record has an extra phrase referring to fuel and passport offences.

Both my hard copy and the linked article contain the mistake about Madeleine being missing from a hotel room. You could understand the journalist/newspaper correcting the mistake if it was brought to their attention and substituting 'holiday apartment'  for 'hotel room' but making the other changes makes no sense to me.

I'll just reiterate what I've said before. I think CB is the man seen hanging around the environs of the OC by several witnesses in the days prior to the disappearance. The thing I don't get is, if he had such a reputation as a wrong'un locally, how none of them recognised him - did he not spend any time socially in PdL, ever go shopping there for essentials? I also don't really buy the premeditation - you don't case a potential crime scene by loitering around it for days on end in broad daylight. I think he had some other reason for being there.

Is this Wolters new evidence recently come to light?

If Brueckner carried out the abduction for money, why would he then go and kill her? That doesn't make sense.

froggy wrote:Is this Wolters  new evidence recently come to light?

If Brueckner carried out the abduction for money, why would he then go and kill her? That doesn't make sense.

He was a supposed deadbeat. How would he come to the attention of an international child trafficking operation?

Here is a link to MWT's programme but it won't be available online until after 17th May.

https://www.channel5.com/show/madeleine-mccann-the-case-against-christian-b

Seems to be playing for me Guinea Pig. I will report back in one hour plus the time it takes me to eat my sandwiches.

Hard to know what to make of that. Again there are more questions than answers.

How did he meet his Carvoeiro alibi? She must have been easier than the Sun crossword!

How were the purchases of the kiosk and the factory funded? Do German realtors not have to follow source of funds/anti money laundering rules?

Why the seeming lack of interest in the child abuse material from the factory?

It's all tremendously vexing.

With you there, Unreorganised.

Also the whole thing was topped off by the unbelievable (or is it?) Wolters/German "investigation". It is itself criminal they are allowed to do and say the things they have without any scrutiny or pushback.

I'm genuinely baffled as to why Germany have even involved themselves in the case TBH. Dare I say an even bigger mystery than what happened to Madeleine.....

TheTruthWillOut wrote:With you there, Unreorganised.

Also the whole thing was topped off by the unbelievable (or is it?) Wolters/German "investigation". It is itself criminal they are allowed to do and say the things they have without any scrutiny or pushback.

I'm genuinely baffled as to why Germany have even involved themselves in the case TBH. Dare I say an even bigger mystery than what happened to Madeleine.....

Why did they involve themselves with the rape case ? Why are they pursuing this other rape allegation? It's not as if either took place in Germany or involved German victims..
To me it has the look of a vendetta against Brueckner rather than a normal pursuit of justice.

Er...The McCann case of course. He is clearly a piece of you know what for many reasons. No doubt about that, but as MWT showed there is nothing linking him to Madeleine yet the/a top German prosecutor states as fact he murdered Madeleine with nothing to back that up or charges for over 2 years. Forgive me for being doubtful of their motives here.

TheTruthWillOut wrote:

Er...The McCann case of course. He is clearly a piece of you know what for many reasons. No doubt about that, but as MWT showed there is nothing linking him to Madeleine yet the/a top German prosecutor states as fact he murdered Madeleine with nothing to back that up or charges for over 2 years. Forgive me for being doubtful of their motives here.

Also, could anybody else not quite comprehend the bit about tracking down the current owner of the "680" phone, accessing their search history and finding out that they just happen be an apparent pervert... or was it just me?

Thanks - it wasn't available when I posted the link earlier.

unreorganised wrote:Also, could anybody else not quite comprehend the bit about tracking down the current owner of the "680" phone, accessing their search history and finding out that they just happen be an apparent pervert... or was it just me?

I do remember watching at the time thinking this tech analyst and MWT seem a bit tech naive but thought surely not. So just had another look....

I'm going to assume that in 2007 the number (683) was a PAYG number which are anonymous but today it could be either PAYG or contract so linked to a person. Today the phone as tracked by MWT's analyst should be as simple as tracking the unique MAC address as it will be a smartphone unlike in 2007 pre-smartphone. The tech analyst may also have access to the IMEI number which is another unique phone fingerprint.

MWT also states that the "new" 683 user is from Germany which if true may indicate this mobile number is owned by a German mobile carrier?

The only odd thing here was the coincidence argument. Mobiles in May 2007 didn't have internet so no porn browsing and today it is so common even MP's in parliament do it. On one hand they talk about that 683 number being taken over by someone else but then say (because of the porn history) it might be the same person who phoned CB on 3rd May 2007 i.e. that number as remained in the same persons hands all these years.

Someone please correct me if I have this all mixed up!

froggy wrote:

TheTruthWillOut wrote:With you there, Unreorganised.

Also the whole thing was topped off by the unbelievable (or is it?) Wolters/German "investigation". It is itself criminal they are allowed to do and say the things they have without any scrutiny or pushback.

I'm genuinely baffled as to why Germany have even involved themselves in the case TBH. Dare I say an even bigger mystery than what happened to Madeleine.....

Why did they involve themselves with the rape case ? Why are they pursuing this other rape allegation? It's not as if either took place in Germany or involved German victims..
To me it has the look of a vendetta against Brueckner rather than a normal pursuit of justice.

I asked earlier if it would be possible for CB to be tried in Germany in relation to Madeleine. Thanks Froggy, I'd forgotten that the appalling rape didn't happen in Germany so yes it's within the bounds of possibility that he could be.

I'm not going to watch it again, but at one point was it stated that a "source" told MWT that he had previously contacted CB on the number in an official capacity? Presumably some representative of the Portuguese criminal justice system?

I know that something was quoted as being from a reliable source.

If it was that, I don't see that it proves that CB was at the scene at the time of the "abduction" as it was clearly stated that he could have been anywhere within a 35 kilometre radius, about 21 miles.

unreorganised wrote:I'm not going to watch it again, but at one point was it stated that a "source" told MWT that he had previously contacted CB on the number in an official capacity? Presumably some representative of the Portuguese criminal justice system?

I think the date of this official contact would be important.
If it was March/April 2007 then it might well point to ownership whereas it it was back in 2005 or even 2006 when he was in prison, it would be difficult to prove it was still in his possession

Anybody going to comment on this latest insanity regarding B's teeth?

He must have been a very good weed dealer to buy an abandoned factory, a kiosk, and get his face fixed off the back of his endeavours. Meanwhile I only know of one party that was collecting large amounts of untraceable cash in the aftermath of the abduction.

The teeth insanity hadn't yet been mentioned!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10817713/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-face-changing-op-months-went-missing.html

Loads of inaccuracies with names - perish the thought that there are other less obvious errors!

Jerry for Gerry, Mural for Murat (that one will drive you up the wall) and Hans Christian-Wolters for Hans Christian Wolters.

They don't seem to acknowledge that we've all seen the "before" and it looks identical to the "after".

Antonia, or any other brave souls among us, would you watch this, please. I got no further than the bit saying that Christian B is the prime suspect with Portuguese investigators.

Freedom wrote:Antonia, or any other brave souls among us, would you watch this, please. I got no further than the bit saying that Christian B is the prime suspect with Portuguese investigators.

I'll watch it later on and get back to you!

Thank you. I shall have to get some bravery medals made for people who manage to read or watch McCann rubbish!

It's only about 16 minutes in length but that is 15 minutes too long for me.

Freedom wrote:Thank you. I shall have to get some bravery medals made for people who manage to read or watch McCann rubbish!

It's only about 16 minutes in length but that is 15 minutes too long for me.

"Few people know the case better than former British detective Mark Williams Thomas".....