The "number 1 suspect" Christian B

I'm sure I've said it before but Hans Christian Andersen has lost out in the greatest storyteller stakes to Hans Christian Wolters.

The latter is an absolute buffoon.

The Behaviour Panel has done a piece on the one-time friend of Christian B who has implicated him in the "abduction" of Madeleine.

I can't watch it (sensory issues) because of the translation jumping about so, if anyone is able to view it, I'll be interested in what the panel says. It should be fairly obvious I think but you never know, perhaps his friend is the most honest person on Earth!!!

Long time, no hear from Sonia Poulton.



Thank goodness I didn't see the Panorama programme; my blood pressure would have gone through the roof!

the none madeleine trials against cb. had given the kick of in the media, how wonderful so see they have need well over a year to find the charges in the 5 cases.

the charges have been already published in 2022, have been shortly paused, because of the little intermezzo about braunschweig was indeed the right court to get these cases, because the suspect debated he was living in another region of germany. when the court of braunschweig became reinstated the same list was activated again.

had we before the misunderstanding that there must have been a case of a first about 40, later about 60, it was all the time the same about a woman between 70 and 80 years.

now a indecent exposure of a guy, that tried to get a young girl helping him to get his pleasure, a very nasty habit and certainly not a welcome experience for a young girl, is now rewritten in a abduction that just was not a success. abduction is at least not the crime we would recognize in all the stories that with real or just made up stories written in the media, that said to have spoken to the family of the girl.

also it is a bit early cb is by instruction of this court innocent until they have proven he is guilty, so we do not even really know this is that guy.
it was this story that even found out about the revamp operation on the jaws and teeth of cb.

well if it was indeed cb, and i like it to wait for a conclusion of the court, it will be already his third conviction of indecent exposure and trying to get a female child into his games, and in total his fourth conviction of interfering with a young female child for his sexual orientated pleasure.

3 of these older cases have been german cases, with german young victims, something is truly wrong in your system of law, when you still let such a guy out in society. and now use such adventures, that could maybe done by this same guy abroad.
in my own opinion once must be enough, if you cannot keep your hands of young children, you are best out of a society that has to much easy next victims.

but giving such a guy 3, yes, 3 chances is just unbelievable. and now call out another country as not having solved your problem is weird.

from a legal viewpoint these 5 cases under the trial that still have their kick off date of february 16, 2024. everything in it is walked over a very flimsy tread.

to say these 5 cases in this trial, officially they each would have their own trial, but as the seem to want to get him in under a combination of a punishment for each, with a keep him in under supervised conditions, they will most likely taken together, at least if 1 or more indeed leads to a conviction, to keep him in. the german term for it is; sicherungsverwahrung.

two of the 5 cases have no known victims, no date it happened, but rest again on testimony of to others who are not really a kind of upstanding citizens by trade, who will tell again about a video, they say to have stolen from that little finca near praia da luz, in 2006 when cb was in jail in portugal for theft of diesel. they did the same in the trial of the 2005 rape case,that convicted cb to 7 years in jail. and why he still is in jail.

at first glance these 5 cases have no direct link to the case of madeleine mccann.
but that is to easy said, because there could be points scored that could be very usable if they ever want a trial started against cb, in an abduction, murder or different formatted manner.

witness credibility is quite a bit of a problem in all the cases in the forthcoming trial, but helge b. and manfred s. have already told their story in the 2005 rape case. so that results in building up credibility, it was based on their story about video's and a victims statement , that making a video was part of the culprit his deeds.

the two cases without anything that can be showed in court, they happened will bring back these same witnesses, so it is up to the judges, 5 in total, to decide how credible they are as witnesses.

and there is a need for credibility, because it was helge b. who sought contact with operation grange with his story about cb in the case of madeleine. this happened in 2017 and was missed by the german and uk media, only the greek media published about it. a uk ex-pat website even reproduced that as news at that time. both are still online.

all who have seen the video with the interview of helge b. by kai feldhaus, could have noticed credibility is a problem, but when the words of that same guy are accepted in 3 court cases, the meaning of his words will end up much stronger.

and it is very unique to see two cases scheduled, no one besides helge b and manfred s. have anything to even start to think they must have happened. it is all based on their words.

cb his older convictions in cases with young female victims with a sexual orientated motivation plus the portuguese playground case, and the girl on the beach case together are enough to show an enduring interest in young female victims. and also point out that he is known to make use of a situation without much planning.

the rape case of the irish holiday rep in 2004, they way of taking entry of that apartment/room can teel together with aspect of the other rape cases in building, he has the ability to get into all kinds of buildings.

the most strange thing is, when they raided the old box factory terrain that is owned by cb in germany, they found a lot of material, including what is presented as writings that could be understood as autobiographic. they also found a large amount of indecent pictures, most have been indecent pictures of young children, so called pedo porn, including indecent pictures of himself.
still that raid had enough publication about elements, but it never have lead to a trial at all.

because it was very easy to get access to the terrain and former factory buildings, lots of reporters have taken a tour there, it could have given trouble to connect all to cb. but at that time in 2016 cb already had a conviction for pedo porn, because of the findings in his lodgings in braunschweig, after he beat up his girlfriend.

it is a different region of germany, germany is not just one single country, but have still many different so called bundeslander, that have their own governmental institutions , including justice.
that is why where you actually choose to live matters, that decides in what region you can land up in a court. what sounds strange, and there is no logic most likely to find, that you can end up in a court in braunschweig, because of what you did in a complete separate country like portugal, but not because of what you did in germany because it was in another region.

i don't have a problem when they lock up cb for deeds he did do and throw the keys out. something that could have been done much sooner, even under german law.
but i have not seen any way to write cb in the case history of madeleine mccann.

i do not like how the german approach of the law is used, and the effects of it, it can have in future cases, when the object of choice is innocent.

i do not like the case presentations of the prosecution, they are way beyond what can be called a decent way or approach. prosecution is not the party that has the task to judge. that always have to be a task of the courts.

i also do not like how the media used the possible victims in combination to the naming of madeleine, there is an overly influence of victims and witnesses in this case and their own cases, that is way beyond appropriate, and this would not been within guidelines if it had been cases rested under uk law. a lot of things you can read in the uk press, dully nicked by the dutch and belgium press, is not available in the german media, because they have guidelines around trials to respect.

but because bits and pieces that maybe can reach the state of proven fact in these 5 cases in the trial, could have an effect in a future prospect of a case against cb, in connection to madeleine mccann, i do follow it.

quite the story after so many years, but there was quickly some reaction from the cumbria police, they have nothing on file about it;

https://cumbriacrack.com/2024/02/08/cumbria-police-refute-claims-of-having-information-relating-to-madeline-mccanns-disappearance/

Wonder how much he was paid?

you almost start to think that calling out the pj as the bungling team, it is now in fashion to call the same to the uk police, first already with the helge b. guy, who told in the german bild video, he had called the confession of cb in, in 2008 shortly after he heard it to the special madeleine tipline from scotland yard.

only there is nowhere anything to find about such a tipline from scotland yard, who at that time had not even the command on this case.

and now another one who told it to a uk police force.


at least it are new stories, not just the old stuff again.

The star witness for the Madeleine McCann case tells all | 60 Minutes Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkx_FEWwt-E

the now traditional approach of 60 minutes, with a helge b. after quite a big make over to be that new start witness. i have no idea what new has as a meaning down under.

it is an approach to mix as much of the name of madeleine mccann in with the series of trials that will start of on february 16th 2024.

This relates to the Australian programme.

Guinea Pig wrote:

This relates to the Australian programme.

Love him. He's spot on.

well that was a very short day in court today, the defense has made a complaint about of of the magistrates, this case had a seat of 3 judges and two magistrates, called schoffen in german.
so the court has first to look into that complaint and see if it is needed to replace the magistrate.

all was nicely communicated in german in a live from the daily mail, you can try to look for it later on, in this link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwvR2Yz_KU



you can use the translation that can be found by first click on the subtitles and the little wheel, choose english and with luck you get a understandable format. it usually only worked if they had the live covered and kept on their website.

usually you can find a former live stream by looking at the channel page, choose live, or use this link;
https://www.youtube.com/@dailymail/streams and look for the one you need.

it started already very un-german-like because all people of the media, they had 45 media seats available and maximum of 5 tv crews that could take some shots in the court room. public would be getting access if there was room for it. so they could not start at 8.00 hours german time/9.00 hours uk time, because of all the time spend on searches, they only managed a third of the people, so court was starting late.

they had the usually strong security rules for serious cases, so all had to let their stuff searched before entering the court room.

it is a very large trial, 5 different cases in one go, cb has 4 sound lawyers in his defense team.

it is not the most hot news in germany itself, i have to go to local papers online and the regional tv stations to even get the news on the front page at all.
and the first day is usually quite boring, just bringing the charges out to the defendant and they will usually be read in full.

even there is no direct link to a case of madeleine, the media still find every way possible to mix all together.

Counttoten wrote:well that was a very short day in court today, the defense has made a complaint about of of the magistrates, this case had a seat of 3 judges and two magistrates, called schoffen in german.
so the court has first to look into that complaint and see if it is needed to replace the magistrate.

all was nicely communicated in german in a live from the daily mail, you can try to look for it later on, in this link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwvR2Yz_KU



you can use the translation that can be found by first click on the subtitles and the little wheel, choose english and with luck you get a understandable format. it usually only worked if they had the live covered and kept on their website.

usually you can find a former live stream by looking at the channel page, choose live, or use this link;
https://www.youtube.com/@dailymail/streams and look for the one you need.

it started already very un-german-like because all people of the media, they had 45 media seats available and maximum of 5 tv crews that could take some shots in the court room. public would be getting access if there was room for it. so they could not start at 8.00 hours german time/9.00 hours uk time, because of all the time spend on searches, they only managed a third of the people, so court was starting late.

they had the usually strong security rules for serious cases, so all had to let their stuff searched before entering the court room.

it is a very large trial, 5 different cases in one go, cb has 4 sound lawyers in his defense team.

it is not the most hot news in germany itself, i have to go to local papers online and the regional tv stations to even get the news on the front page at all.
and the first day is usually quite boring, just bringing the charges out to the defendant and they will usually be read in full.

even there is no direct link to a case of madeleine, the media still find every way possible to mix all together.

Thanks, I'll have a look later.

one of the local papers online had a bit more why the magistrate was not acceptable for the defense, i translated it with deepl, they use lay judge, but the role of a schoffen is more equal with a english magistrate.

Even before the presentation of personal details on Friday morning, however, there was a hammer blow at the Braunschweig district court: a lay judge was rejected by defence lawyer Friedrich Fülscher. She is said to have made controversial posts on X (formerly Twitter). Among other things, she is said to have called for the killing of Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro in 2019 because of the deforestation of the rainforest ("Kill the devil").

The chamber withdrew for half an hour to deliberate - and then announced that the lay judge would be replaced and the trial would be suspended for the day. The public prosecutor's office wants to examine a case against the woman. The trial will continue next Friday, said presiding judge Uta Engemann. As a precautionary measure, the court has appointed two further lay assessors and a substitute judge as back-ups.

from; https://www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de/braunschweig/article241685584/Prozessbeginn-in-Braunschweig-Christian-B-vor-Gericht.html

so next friday they just start over.

the link goes to an artikel in german, but it is updated quickly, but this was taken from the text around 11.30 hours.

today is the second day in court on the other charges against cb.

so today they had to do what was expected to be done last week, identity check of the defendant, and the reading of the charges in the 5 cases.

there was a bit lesser intrest by the media, but still all seats have been mostly full, there is a media and a visitors seating.
but they could start on time this morning.

the defense has told the defendant would like to make use of his right to keep his silence. he did not even spoke out when his personalia had to be established, his defense did even that for him.

there was already a little clashing of the titans in court, because the defense, by mouth of ff took it up to make an opening statement, the prosecution officer protested a bit, but the judge could not find it out of line.

the defense will seek a none guilty verdict.

so nothing spectaculair is going on. it is hard to follow, it ends only up in the local news with not even very quick updates at all. so it means looking at many local sources to get some info out. the big titles will maybe deliver later a compilation of it. at least because it is friday, it means there only is half a day in court.
and for the non german media outlets it is a bit of a bummer, that there is no translation service in this court. so most have most likely to wait until the germans have written their news stories, to get an idea what is said.

the prosecution officer in these cases is not the better known hans christian wolters, but one of the high ranking others, a lady called ute lindemann. so it looks true that the role of the hcw is indeed that of media mouth. it is known hcw does handle other cases as a prosecution officer in court, but because we would see his face most in the news, it does not mean it are always his own cases to prosecute.

besides the connection mostly put up these charges to the case of madeleine mccann, there still could be little things happening in these cases, that could be used later , if and when there is a decision to bring charges and a court case against cb in a madeleine case.

one is making the unsavory witnesses like helge b. more credible, he is already once accepted as credible witness in court in the 2005 rape case cb is doing time for at the moment. and helge b. is also the one who's words bound cb to madeleine mccann after his testimony to operation grange in the uk.

but also little parts, like getting entry to proporties, like in the hazel b. rape case and the unknown older lady in the rape case on a unknown date and time in a holiday rental.
there are no break ins in properties known in the list of convictions from cb. there is an early one when he was still under age, but very little is known about that. the adventures of cb as the master burglar is only there by mouth of unknown and known other unsavory characters, usually called to be former friends of cb.

for the interested, the affair with the magistrate last week was recognised by the court, it was the defense team of cb who brought the complaint against her, but even the judges and the prosecution did agree in the complaint. they had already put some stand in judge and magistrates in before hand, so it was not something that needed more time. it was the first time this magistrate was taking up her role in the courts, so no other cases would have get into a conflict.

next court date on the calendar is friday 1 march 2024.

and if we could get the idea it was a kind of silent day in court. the next story rolls out.

a german news outlet called t online comes with the information that the holding cell of cb, where he could have contact with his lawyers by phone was listen into the conversation by the german police force of the bka.

the information is said to send by email to the defense team of cb by a former worker of the bka.

the link to the full article in german is to find here;

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/deutschland/innenpolitik/id_100349430/fall-maddie-verdaechtiger-wurde-laut-ex-bka-mitarbeiterin-in-zelle-abgehoert.html

the article tells that it was done because two workers of the bka had been thinking, cb had to up something to them.

it is all very fresh, and not known if it is related to the 5 cases in the active court case, or can be part of the madeleine case.

Is there any evidence to link CB to Maddies disappearance? I haven't seen anything.

The german link onehand, I don't speak german and can't get past what looks like cookies accept or reject. Can you please tell me which is reject so I can then use translate for the report.

Thanks.

No believable evidence apart from in the mind of the German prosecutor.

And the british media?

From the reports I've seen I'm surprised any case got to a law court, it seems strange CBs been sitting in jail for so long only to be charged with multiple sex offenses over a number of years.

Are they using him as the role model of a typical pedophile and kidnapper and murderer? Or is it the media who has him on trial.

I don't understand german law, it's seems an odd system. It's hard to know what is true and what is false without reliable evidence.

i am reading too often there i think, i no longer get the cookies, but i will put it through deepl for you;

A former BKA employee is making serious allegations in the case of the suspect who allegedly killed Maddie McCann. This could jeopardise the trial against him.

It is a motion with explosive force. One that nobody expected to hear this Friday in the courtroom of the district court in Braunschweig. A former employee of the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) claims that the suspect's custody cells in the Maddie McCann case were equipped with bugging technology. She is said to have told Christian B.'s lawyers this and also provided photos to prove it. The lawyers therefore requested this morning that the witness be heard in the trial.

During the alleged wiretapping measures, telephone conversations between the alleged murderer Christian B. and his lawyers could apparently also have been tapped. In the motion, they therefore questioned whether it was even possible to conduct proceedings in accordance with the rule of law.

The trial was adjourned on Friday after the arraignment and the lawyers' motion.

Witness reports by e-mail
The former BKA employee is said to have contacted defence lawyer Friedrich Fülscher in an email. In it, she wrote that she had been responsible for wiretapping measures in the BKA's "Operativtechnik Audio (OE33-3)" department. In this function, she had been involved in preparations for the installation of bugging technology in Christian B.'s cell. According to the application, two BKA officers had told her that they had a personal score to settle with Christian B. and that they were planning to do something about it.

The fact that the witness actually worked for the BKA can be seen from an employer's reference, which is said to be attached to the application. It describes her work at the BKA as she stated.

Were there bugging measures?
Maddie McCann, an almost four-year-old British girl, disappeared without a trace from a holiday flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007 and has been missing ever since. The German Christian B., who lived there at the time, is considered the main suspect. So far, however, there is no concrete evidence of a crime. Christian B. is on trial at Braunschweig District Court for five other offences that he allegedly committed in Portugal between December 2000 and June 2017. The charges relate to alleged rape and sexual abuse. B. has already been sentenced to seven years in prison in one trial, but a retrial is currently underway.

The BKA officers apparently resorted to wiretapping in order to obtain information about the offences of which he was accused. The application filed by B.'s lawyers also contains photos showing parts of the wiretapping equipment.

Additional cables can be seen leading away from the telephone socket in the cell. B.'s lawyer writes that the images originate from a chat between the witness and the BKA officers. They had had questions for the witness and had therefore sent the pictures to her.

Adventurous
One of Christian B.'s lawyers, Philipp Marquort from Kiel, is shocked by the police's actions: "The defence still has no knowledge of this process, apart from the information from the witness." He finds it adventurous that such important information is not disclosed to the court, "but also to the defence by the public prosecutor's office". He believes his client's fundamental rights have been violated. "We cannot yet say whether the surveillance was legal or illegal. However, the client only spoke to his defence lawyers on the phone. It is illegal to monitor the defence lawyers' conversations.

How credible is the witness?
But how credible is the witness? According to B.'s lawyers, she showed them her reference. According to this, she had always shown great commitment and identified with her tasks. The reference was signed by a head of unit at the BKA, and a BKA stamp was also said to be on it.

It is still unclear what impact the lawyers' application will have on the proceedings. It is also unclear if and when the court will hear the witness.

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yeah, if you are used to the uk law system, this is different, german law is continental law, so the judge or judges are the ones who have to look for the truth, and have an active role in finding it.
and even each country has its own different bits in how things are handled. also in germany the judge already has gotten the files with evidence, so it is usually much duller, than a jury court.

the largest difference is who have the role to tell your guilty or not. all systems have their pro's and con's.

and usually if you use google translate, for sure with the auto translate settings, the cookie forms are also translated. and the german news outlet usually let you choose between reading on with adds and handing out your data, or get an abo. so they are no simple yes or no forms.
and some are heavy with access restrictions from abroad. certainly on video's.

the mirror had a kind of live ticker going on, but they put older bits of their crap in between, and that makes it harder to get , if it was something handled in the court or not. but google did not indexed it in time to use it.

there was hardly anything going on, as always on the first day in court, under normal procedures.
most is just the protocol. who is who. and no new facts at all.
but they could write of course about cb wearing a white shirt under the same light blue jacket.

the defense team is trying to get the two undated, maybe rape case with unknown if these have victims from the table, by calling out the prosecution for putting the earliest date on 28 december 2000 and the date in 2017 when he was arrested on the play area in portugal.

one news outlet wrote it was a decision by the prosecution, because before that date cb lived together with a lady friend, who knew nothing about a video camera, in the little finca they lived in, in praja da luz. by making use of this first date, the case had not reached the statue of limitations.
the answer of the court is nowhere to find, but it can of course become just noted until this witness gets to testify.

and the defense team get there hours covered by the german tax payers.